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Introduction ...

We have a couple of goals for our Gazetteer:

  • That it be a tool which helps us with planning our trips.
  • We're trying to shape our Gazetteer as a tool to help us understand the community in which our ancestors lived, the community that was part of their daily lives.
  • On our trips, we try to visit those places where our ancestors left their footprints.

By learning about Doddsville (and the surrounding area) during the time that our ancestors lived, we hope to have a better understanding of both their community and its relationship to their lifes. We hope that this tool helps to give us an insight into their world.

As we add data and organize our Gazetteer to help with our family research, we will be adding to this our Genealogical Helper for Doddsville. While we don't have information that is specific to any given person or family, we intend to expand our understanding about where and how people lived.

Neighboring Counties ...

When searching for family records, we have frequently made the mistake of not checking the neighboring counties.

For example, we have great-grandparents who lived in the southeast corner of their home county. During their lives, most doctors were in the next county to the east. Almost all of the nearby churches and cemeteries were in the county to the south.

So when searching for records, we had our best success by looking in neighboring counties instead of the county in which they lived:  their home county contained property and probate records; the county to the east contained birth and death records; the county to the south contained their burial records. If we hadn't included the neighboring counties, we would have missed many valuable sources of information.

If you're in a similar situation, we hope that the following information helps.

Doddsville is located in Cheatham County.

To see how the shape of Tennessee's counties may have changed over time, we recommend the Atlas of Historical County Boundaries.

The following counties adjoin and form the boundaries of Cheatham County: Davidson, Dickson, Montgomery, Robertson & Williamson.

Below are the counties that are near Doddsville. For each of these counties, we show a sample of those communities that are closest to Doddsville:

  • Cheatham County     (The home county of Doddsville)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Neptune
      (Less than 2 miles to the east)
      • Neptune is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Neptune
    • Cheap Hill
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
      • Cheap Hill is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cheap Hill
      • Estimated population in 2014: 173,778 people
    • Henrietta
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the north)
      • Henrietta is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Henrietta
      • Estimated population in 2014: 921 people
    • Lockertsville
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the east)
      • Lockertsville is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lockertsville
      • Estimated population in 2014: 885 people
    • Sycamore
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the east)
      • Sycamore is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sycamore
    • Ashland City
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southeast)
      • Ashland City is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ashland City
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 4,748 people
    • Pleasant View
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the east)
    • Lillamay
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the southeast)
      • Lillamay is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lillamay
    • Bearwallow
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the east)
      • Bearwallow is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bearwallow
    • Marrowbone
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the southeast)
      • Marrowbone is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Marrowbone
    • Westeria ‑ Historic
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the east)
      • Westeria is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Westeria
    • Bell Town
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the south)
      • Bell Town is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bell Town
    • Doziers ‑ Historic
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the southeast)
      • Doziers is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Doziers
      • Estimated population in 2014: 543 people
  • Davidson County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Addie ‑ Historic
      (18 miles [29 km] to the east)
      • Addie is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Addie
      • Estimated population in 2014: 650 people
    • Greenville
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the east)
      • Greenville is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Greenville
    • Morny
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the east)
      • Morny is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Morny
    • Ridgepost ‑ Historic
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the east)
      • Ridgepost is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ridgepost
      • Estimated population in 2014: 1,732 people
    • Joelton
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the east)
    • Watkins ‑ Historic
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the southeast)
      • Watkins is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Watkins
    • Bellevue
      (23 miles [37 km] to the southeast)
    • Linton
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the southeast)
      • Linton is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Linton
    • Tennessee Towne ‑ Historic
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the southeast)
      • Tennessee Towne is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tennessee Towne
      • Estimated population in 2014: 1,347 people
    • Ridgetop
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
      • Ridgetop is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ridgetop
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,122 people
    • Belle Meade
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the southeast)
      • Belle Meade is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Belle Meade
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,788 people
    • East Nashville
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the east)
      • East Nashville is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for East Nashville
    • Forest Hills
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the southeast)
      • Forest Hills is located in Davidson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Forest Hills
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 4,721 people
  • Dickson County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Bellsburg
      (5 miles [8 km] to the southeast)
      • Bellsburg is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bellsburg
    • Stayton
      (7 miles [11.3 km] to the southwest)
      • Stayton is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stayton
    • White Oak Flat
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the south)
      • White Oak Flat is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for White Oak Flat
    • Dunn Chapel
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the west)
      • Dunn Chapel is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dunn Chapel
    • Woods Valley
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the west)
      • Woods Valley is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Woods Valley
    • Charlotte
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the southwest)
    • Slayden
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the west)
      • Slayden is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Slayden
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 207 people
    • Vanleer
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the southwest)
    • White Bluff
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the south)
    • Pond
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
      • Pond is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pond
    • Burns
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
      • Burns is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Burns
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,550 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Burns <1>
    • Dickson
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the southwest)
    • Pomona
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the south)
      • Pomona is located in Dickson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pomona
  • Hickman County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Bon Aqua Junction
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the south)
      • Bon Aqua Junction is located in Hickman County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bon Aqua Junction
      • Population from the 2010 Census: 1,230 people
    • Lyles
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the south)
  • Houston County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Omega ‑ Historic
      (18 miles [29 km] to the west)
      • Omega is located in Houston County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Omega
    • Erin
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the west)
      • Erin is located in Houston County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Erin
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,308 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Erin <1>
    • Brownsville
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
      • Brownsville is located in Houston County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Brownsville
      • Estimated population in 2014: 9,974 people
    • Tennessee Ridge
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the west)
  • Humphreys County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • McEwen
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the southwest)
      • McEwen is located in Humphreys County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for McEwen
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,743 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for McEwen <1>
    • Bethpage
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southwest)
      • Bethpage is located in Humphreys County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bethpage
      • Population from the 2010 Census: 288 people
  • Montgomery County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Southside
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northwest)
    • Fredonia
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the north)
      • Fredonia is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fredonia
    • Oak Plains
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the northeast)
      • Oak Plains is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oak Plains
    • Liverworth
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Liverworth is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Liverworth
    • McAllisters Crossroads
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the west)
    • Louise
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the west)
      • Louise is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Louise
    • Woodford ‑ Historic
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the north)
      • Woodford is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Woodford
    • Sango
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the north)
      • Sango is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sango
    • Oakridge
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the west)
      • Oakridge is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oakridge
      • Estimated population in 2014: 29,303 people
    • Swan Lake Village
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the north)
      • Swan Lake Village is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Swan Lake Village
    • Wingate West
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the north)
      • Wingate West is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wingate West
      • Estimated population in 2014: 954 people
    • Clarksville
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the northwest)
    • Port Royal
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the north)
      • Port Royal is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Port Royal
  • Robertson County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Stroudville
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northeast)
      • Stroudville is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stroudville
    • Holmansville ‑ Historic
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the northeast)
      • Holmansville is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Holmansville
    • Sandy Springs
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the northeast)
      • Sandy Springs is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sandy Springs
    • Coopertown
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the east)
      • Coopertown is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Coopertown
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 4,612 people
    • Flewellyn
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the northeast)
      • Flewellyn is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Flewellyn
    • Adams
      (18 miles [29 km] to the northeast)
      • Adams is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Adams
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 678 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Adams <1>
    • Crunk
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the east)
      • Crunk is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Crunk
      • Estimated population in 2014: 1,406 people
    • Cedar Hill
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the northeast)
    • Springfield
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the northeast)
    • Greenbrier
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
      • Greenbrier is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Greenbrier
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 6,905 people
    • Hygeia Springs
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
      • Hygeia Springs is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hygeia Springs
    • Barren Plain
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the northeast)
      • Barren Plain is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Barren Plain
    • Oakland
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the northeast)
      • Oakland is located in Robertson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oakland
  • Stewart County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Cumberland City
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the west)
    • Throckmorton
      (23 miles [37 km] to the west)
      • Throckmorton is located in Stewart County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Throckmorton
      • Estimated population in 2014: 1,692 people
    • Indian Mound
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the northwest)
    • Legate
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Legate is located in Stewart County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Legate
  • Sumner County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Goodlettsville
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
    • Millersville
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
  • Williamson County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Fairview
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the south)
    • Loriland
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the south)
      • Loriland is located in Williamson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Loriland
      • Estimated population in 2014: 1,735 people
    • Fernvale
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the south)
      • Fernvale is located in Williamson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fernvale
    • Old Town ‑ Historic
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the southeast)
      • Old Town is located in Williamson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Old Town
    • Wildwood Estates
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the southeast)
      • Wildwood Estates is located in Williamson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wildwood Estates
      • Population from the 2010 Census: 1,098 people
    • Forest Home
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southeast)
      • Forest Home is located in Williamson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Forest Home
  • Christian County (KY)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Oak Grove
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
      • Oak Grove is located in Christian County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oak Grove
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 7,369 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Oak Grove <1>
    • Garrettsburg
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the northwest)
      • Garrettsburg is located in Christian County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Garrettsburg
    • Howel
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Howel is located in Christian County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Howel
    • Pembroke
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
      • Pembroke is located in Christian County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pembroke
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 890 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Pembroke <1>
  • Logan County (KY)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Keysburg
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the northeast)
      • Keysburg is located in Logan County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Keysburg
    • Olmstead
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
      • Olmstead is located in Logan County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Olmstead
    • Adairville
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northeast)
  • Todd County (KY)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.
    • Guthrie
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the north)
    • Hadensville
      (23 miles [37 km] to the north)
      • Hadensville is located in Todd County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hadensville
    • Anderson
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the north)
      • Anderson is located in Todd County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Anderson
    • Trenton
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the north)
    • Allensville
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
      • Allensville is located in Todd County (KY)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Allensville
      • Population from the 2010 Census: 157 people

For an expanded list of the communities that are closest to Doddsville, see our County-by-County Page for Doddsville.

Cemeteries Near Doddsville ...

Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Doddsville.

This is a new section and is likely to have errors. If you find an error, such as a missing cemetery or we have the wrong name, please let us know. If you know of them, we would also appreciate learning about previous or alternate names.

Although we don't have the information ourselves, if you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Doddsville - one of the links might be able to help.

If not found below, our Cemetery List for Doddsville covers a larger area, with the cemeteries listed in alphabetical order.

The following cemeteries are listed based on their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.

  • Barton Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the northwest)
  • Bobbitt - Forbes Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the northeast)
  • New Hope Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the northeast)
  • Justice Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the north)
  • Page Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the north)
  • Hagewood Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the west)
  • Blanton Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the north)
  • Major Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the north)
  • Skaggs Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the southeast)
  • Weakley Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the east)
  • Fambrough Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the east)
  • Smith Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the east)
  • Continue List   (805 more) ...
    • Cooper Gupton Cemetery
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northeast)
    • Nicholson Cemetery
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northeast)
    • Frazier Cemetery
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northeast)

Nearby Communities in 1895 ...

We've built the following list with information that came from an Atlas published by Rand McNally in 1895. The Atlas had details such as the population of the community (which appears to have come from the 1890 Census) and whether there was a post office and/or railroad service available. We also indicate if the community no longer exists and is now historic.<2>

While we didn't find Doddsville in the Atlas, the following 1895 communities would have been found near the current location of Doddsville.

These communities are listed based on their distance from Doddsville, with the one closest to Doddsville listed first.

  • Neptune
    (Less than 2 miles to the east)
    • Neptune is located in Cheatham County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Neptune
  • Cheap Hill
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
    • Cheap Hill is located in Cheatham County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cheap Hill
    • Estimated population in 2014: 173,778 people
  • Henrietta
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the north)
    • Henrietta is located in Cheatham County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Henrietta
    • Estimated population in 2014: 921 people
  • Southside
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northwest)
  • Bellsburg
    (5 miles [8 km] to the southeast)
    • Bellsburg is located in Dickson County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bellsburg
  • Lockertsville
    (6 miles [9.7 km] to the east)
    • Lockertsville is located in Cheatham County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lockertsville
    • Estimated population in 2014: 885 people
  • Fredonia
    (6 miles [9.7 km] to the north)
    • Fredonia is located in Montgomery County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fredonia
  • McAllisters Crossroads
    (6 miles [9.7 km] to the west)
  • Thomasville
    (7 miles [11.3 km] to the northeast)
    • Thomasville is located in Cheatham County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Thomasville
  • Grantville ‑ Historic
    (7 miles [11.3 km] to the north)
    • Grantville is located in Montgomery County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Grantville
  • Cumberland Furnace
    (8 miles [12.9 km] to the southwest)
  • Dull
    (9 miles [14.5 km] to the south)
    • Dull is located in Dickson County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dull
  • Continue List   (13 more) ...
    • Petway
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
      • Petway is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Petway
    • Sycamore
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the east)
      • Sycamore is located in Cheatham County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sycamore
    • Louise
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the west)
      • Louise is located in Montgomery County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Louise

We've also created an expanded list of communities that existed in the 1890's and were located in the area around Doddsville. See our List of 1890's Communities around Doddsville.

Newspapers Published in Doddsville ...

An ongoing effort between the Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) has resulted in the National Digital Newspaper Program (NDNP).

To share their results, the partnership has created the Chronicling America website. The goal of this partnership is to assemble a database about the current and historic newspapers of the United States. This includes a growing collection of scanned images from selected papers. All of it available to the public on their website.

Using information that we've taken from the Chronicling America website, we've identified 61 newspapers that have been published in the area around Doddsville.

Although we're unaware of any newspapers that were published in the immediate area of Doddsville, there are papers which were published within 14 miles [22.5 km]<3>. A list of those papers, sorted by paper name, can be found on the Extended Newspaper List for Doddsville.

Websites to Help With Your Genealogy Research ...

When we do our genealogical research, we first visit the websites from Cyndi's List, FamilySearch and Genealogy Trails. These professional and volunteer websites offer the information directly or else point to where you can find it. Their information is open to everyone.

To help you get started, the following links will take you to the pages that are relevant to Doddsville:

Footnotes ...

<1>While we're fans and frequent users of TripAdvisor, you should know that we're also members of the TripAdvisor affiliate program.
<2>We use the term 'Historic' broadly and it generally means that the community no longer exists. However, it can also mean that the community might still exist, but was significantly larger or had a more 'official' existence in the past than it does now. Unfortunately our sources of data have proven to be unreliable. If you can provide us with more specific information about Doddsville, please let us know so that we can improve our accuracy.
<3>Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'straight-line' (or point-to-point) distance. A straight line distance ignores obstructions like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line from Point A (ie- Doddsville) to Point B. In other words: 'As the crow flies'.