Our Genealogy Helper
Introduction ...
We have a couple of goals for our Gazetteer:
- That it be a tool which helps us with planning our trips.
- We're trying to shape our Gazetteer as a tool to help us understand the community in which our ancestors lived, the community that was part of their daily lives.
- On our trips, we try to visit those places where our ancestors left their footprints.
By learning about Ackermanville (and the surrounding area) during the time that our ancestors lived, we hope to have a better understanding of both their community and its relationship to their lifes. We hope that this tool helps to give us an insight into their world.
As we add data and organize our Gazetteer to help with our family research, we will be adding to this our Genealogical Helper for Ackermanville. While we don't have information that is specific to any given person or family, we intend to expand our understanding about where and how people lived.
Neighboring Counties ...
When searching for family records, we have frequently made the mistake of not checking the neighboring counties.
For example, we have great-grandparents who lived in the southeast corner of their home county. During their lives, most doctors and hospitals were in the next county to the east. Almost all of the nearby churches and cemeteries were in the county to the south.
So when searching for records, we had our best success by looking in neighboring counties instead of the county in which they lived: their home county contained property and probate records; the county to the east contained birth and death records; the county to the south contained their burial records. If we hadn't included the neighboring counties, we would have missed many valuable sources of information.
If you're in a similar situation, we hope that the following information helps.
Ackermanville is located in Northampton County.
To see how the shape of Pennsylvania's counties may have changed over time, we recommend the Atlas of Historical County Boundaries.
The following counties adjoin and form the boundaries of Northampton County: Warren (NJ), Bucks, Carbon, Lehigh & Monroe.
Below are the counties that are near Ackermanville. For each of these counties, we show a sample of those communities that are closest to Ackermanville:
- Northampton County (The home county of Ackermanville)
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Bangor
(Less than 2 miles to the northeast)
- New Village
(Less than 2 miles to the northeast)
- New Village is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for New Village
- Roseto
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the north)
- Pen Argyl
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the northwest)
- Kesslersville
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the south)
- Kesslersville is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Kesslersville
- Kesslersville has also been known as:
- Alamanda
- Keslers
- Kesslers
- Wind Gap
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
- Richmond
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
- Richmond is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Richmond
- East Bangor
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
- East Bangor is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for East Bangor
- Population from the 2020 Census: 1,624 people
- Belfast
(5 miles [8 km] to the southwest)
- Belfast is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Belfast
- Stockertown
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the south)
- Nisky
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the southwest)
- Nisky is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Nisky
- Eastlawn Gardens
(7 miles [11.3 km] to the southwest)
- Eastlawn Gardens is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Eastlawn Gardens
- Bucks County
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Riegelsville
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the south)
- Durham
(18 miles [29 km] to the south)
- Durham is located in Bucks County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Durham
- Monroe
(18 miles [29 km] to the south)
- Monroe is located in Bucks County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Monroe
- Kintnersville
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
- Springtown
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
- Upper Black Eddy
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
- Passer
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the south)
- Passer is located in Bucks County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Passer
- Uhlerstown
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the south)
- Uhlerstown is located in Bucks County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Uhlerstown
- Erwinna
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the south)
- Pullen
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the south)
- Pullen is located in Bucks County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pullen
- Hilltop
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the south)
- Hilltop is located in Bucks County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hilltop
- Ottsville
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the south)
- Carbon County
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Little Gap
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the west)
- Little Gap is located in Carbon County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Little Gap
- Jonesville
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the west)
- Jonesville is located in Carbon County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jonesville
- Meckesville
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the northwest)
- Meckesville is located in Carbon County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Meckesville
- Palmerton
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the west)
- Palmerton is located in Carbon County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Palmerton
- Population from the 2020 Census: 5,321 people
- Bowmanstown
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the west)
- Hazard
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the west)
- Hazard is located in Carbon County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hazard
- Albrightsville
(23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
- Kittatinny
(23 miles [37 km] to the west)
- Kittatinny is located in Carbon County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Kittatinny
- Parryville
(23 miles [37 km] to the west)
- Lehighton
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the west)
- Weissport
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the west)
- Ashfield
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the west)
- Ashfield is located in Carbon County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ashfield
- Lehigh County
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Catasauqua
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- Coplay
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- Fountain Hill
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- Fountain Hill is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fountain Hill
- Population from the 2020 Census: 4,713 people
- Hokendauqua
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- Hokendauqua is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hokendauqua
- Rittersville
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- Rittersville is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Rittersville
- Wellington
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- Wellington is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wellington
- West Catasauqua
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- West Catasauqua is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for West Catasauqua
- Fullerton
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
- Fullerton is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fullerton
- Rockdale
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southwest)
- Rockdale is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Rockdale
- Seiple
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southwest)
- Seiple is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Seiple
- Allentown
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
- Balliettsville
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
- Balliettsville is located in Lehigh County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Balliettsville
- Luzerne County
- Stoddartsville
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the northwest)
- Stoddartsville is located in Luzerne County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stoddartsville
- Monroe County
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Rossland
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the west)
- Rossland is located in Monroe County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Rossland
- Arlington Heights
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the north)
- Arlington Heights is located in Monroe County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Arlington Heights
- Delaware Water Gap
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the north)
- Stroudsburg
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the north)
- Brodheadsville
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the northwest)
- East Stroudsburg
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the north)
- Appenzell
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the northwest)
- Appenzell is located in Monroe County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Appenzell
- Gilbert
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the northwest)
- Reeders
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the northwest)
- McMichael
(14 miles [22.5 km] to the northwest)
- McMichael is located in Monroe County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for McMichael
- Kresgeville
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the west)
- Coolbaugh
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the northeast)
- Coolbaugh is located in Monroe County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Coolbaugh
- Pike County
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Egypt Mills
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the northeast)
- Egypt Mills is located in Pike County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Egypt Mills
- Delaware
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the northeast)
- Delaware is located in Pike County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Delaware
- La Anna
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the north)
- La Anna is located in Pike County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for La Anna
- Panther
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
- Panther is located in Pike County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Panther
- South Sterling
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
- Schuylkill County
- Andreas
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the west)
- Hunterdon County (NJ)
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Hughesville
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the south)
- Hughesville is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hughesville
- New Hampton
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the southeast)
- New Hampton is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for New Hampton
- West Portal
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the southeast)
- West Portal is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for West Portal
- Pattenburg
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the southeast)
- Pattenburg is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pattenburg
- Mount Pleasant
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southeast)
- Mount Pleasant is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mount Pleasant
- Hoffmans
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
- Hoffmans is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hoffmans
- Jutland
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
- Jutland is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jutland
- Mariannes Corner
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
- Mariannes Corner is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mariannes Corner
- Readingsburg
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
- Readingsburg is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Readingsburg
- Califon
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the east)
- Califon is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Califon
- Clinton
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southeast)
- Clinton is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Clinton
- Population from the 2020 Census: 2,675 people
- Everittstown
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southeast)
- Everittstown is located in Hunterdon County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Everittstown
- Morris County (NJ)
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Crestmoore
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the east)
- Crestmoore is located in Morris County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Crestmoore
- Long Valley
(23 miles [37 km] to the east)
- Long Valley is located in Morris County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Long Valley
- Naughright
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
- Naughright is located in Morris County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Naughright
- Budd Lake
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
- Budd Lake is located in Morris County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Budd Lake
- Hacklebarney
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the east)
- Hacklebarney is located in Morris County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hacklebarney
- Succasunna
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
- Succasunna is located in Morris County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Succasunna
- Somerset County (NJ)
- Gladstone
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
- Gladstone is located in Somerset County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gladstone
- Sussex County (NJ)
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Hardwick
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
- Hardwick is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hardwick
- Tranquility
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the east)
- Tranquility is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tranquility
- Middleville
(23 miles [37 km] to the northeast)
- Middleville is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Middleville
- Waterloo Village ‑ Historic
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
- Waterloo Village is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Waterloo Village
- Waterloo Village has also been known as:
- Waterloo
- Brighton
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the northeast)
- Brighton is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Brighton
- Swartswood
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the northeast)
- Swartswood is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Swartswood
- Crandon Lakes
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the northeast)
- Crandon Lakes is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Crandon Lakes
- Newton
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the northeast)
- Newton is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Newton
- Population from the 2020 Census: 7,977 people
- Wallpack Center
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the northeast)
- Wallpack Center is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wallpack Center
- Hopatcong Hills
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
- Hopatcong Hills is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hopatcong Hills
- Balesville
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the northeast)
- Balesville is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Balesville
- Washingtonville
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the northeast)
- Washingtonville is located in Sussex County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Washingtonville
- Warren County (NJ)
- The following are listed by their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Foul Rift ‑ Historic
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the east)
- Foul Rift is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Foul Rift
- Belvidere
(7 miles [11.3 km] to the east)
- Belvidere is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Belvidere
- Population from the 2020 Census: 2,563 people
- Harmony
(7 miles [11.3 km] to the southeast)
- Harmony is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Harmony
- Ramseysburg
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the east)
- Ramseysburg is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ramseysburg
- Columbia
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the northeast)
- Columbia is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Columbia
- Delaware
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the northeast)
- Delaware is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Delaware
- Hazen
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the east)
- Hazen is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hazen
- Montana
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
- Montana is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Montana
- Phillipsburg
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
- Phillipsburg is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Phillipsburg
- Population from the 2020 Census: 14,238 people
- Oxford
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the east)
- Oxford is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oxford
- Hainesburg
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the northeast)
- Hainesburg is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hainesburg
- Stewartsville
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the southeast)
- Stewartsville is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stewartsville
For an expanded list of the communities that are closest to Ackermanville, see our County-by-County Page for Ackermanville.
Cemeteries Near Ackermanville ...
Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Ackermanville.
This is a new section and is likely to have errors. If you find an error, such as a missing cemetery or we have the wrong name, please let us know. If you know of them, we would also appreciate learning about previous or alternate names.
Although we don't have the information ourselves, if you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Ackermanville - one of the links might be able to help.
If not found below, our Cemetery List for Ackermanville covers a larger area, with the cemeteries listed in alphabetical order.
The following cemeteries are listed based on their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Flicksville UCC Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Flicksville UCC Cemetery
- The Flicksville UCC Cemetery has also been known as:
- Flicksville Cemetery
- Flicksville United Church Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2189832 <2>
- Trinity Lutheran Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Trinity Lutheran Cemetery
- The Trinity Lutheran Cemetery has also been known as:
- Old Mennonite Cemetery
- St. Johns Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the north)
- Fairview Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the northwest)
- Miller Cemetery
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the east)
- Evergreen Cemetery
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the northwest)
- Evangelical Cemetery
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the north)
- Evergreen Cemetery
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
- Plainfield Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
- Mt. Carmel Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
- Bruch Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
- Mt. Zion Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the southeast)
- Continue List (238 more) ...
- Union Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
- Union Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the southwest)
- Lake View Cemetery
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the northwest)
Nearby Communities in 1895 ...
We've built the following list with information that came from an Atlas published by Rand McNally in 1895. The Atlas had details such as the population of the community (which appears to have come from the 1890 Census) and whether there was a post office and/or railroad service available. We also indicate if the community no longer exists and is now historic.<3>
The Rand McNally Atlas shows that Ackermanville had a population of 187 people in 1895 with a post office and railroad service.
These communities are listed based on their distance from Ackermanville, with the one closest to Ackermanville listed first.
- Flicksville
(Less than 2 miles to the east)
- Flicksville is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Flicksville
- Bangor
(Less than 2 miles to the northeast)
- Delabole
(Less than 2 miles to the northwest)
- Delabole is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Delabole
- West Bangor
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the north)
- West Bangor is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for West Bangor
- Pen Argyl
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the northwest)
- Wind Gap
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
- Edelman
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the southwest)
- Edelman is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Edelman
- Martins Creek
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the southeast)
- Richmond
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
- Richmond is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Richmond
- East Bangor
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
- East Bangor is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for East Bangor
- Population from the 2020 Census: 1,624 people
- North Bangor
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the north)
- North Bangor is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for North Bangor
- Belfast
(5 miles [8 km] to the southwest)
- Belfast is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Belfast
- Continue List (17 more) ...
- Sandts Eddy
(5 miles [8 km] to the south)
- Sandts Eddy is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sandts Eddy
- Brainards
(5 miles [8 km] to the southeast)
- Brainards is located in Warren County (NJ)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Brainards
- Stone Church
(5 miles [8 km] to the east)
- Stone Church is located in Northampton County
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stone Church
We've also created an expanded list of communities that existed in the 1890's and were located in the area around Ackermanville. See our List of 1890's Communities around Ackermanville.
Newspapers Published in Ackermanville ...
An ongoing effort between the Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) has resulted in the National Digital Newspaper Program (NDNP).
To share their results, the partnership has created the Chronicling America website. The goal of this partnership is to assemble a database about the current and historic newspapers of the United States. This includes a growing collection of scanned images from selected papers. All of it available to the public on their website.
Using information that we've taken from the Chronicling America website, we've identified 129 newspapers that have been published in the area around Ackermanville.
Although we're unaware of any newspapers that were published in the immediate area of Ackermanville, there are papers which were published within 11 miles [17.7 km]<4>. A list of those papers, sorted by paper name, can be found on the Extended Newspaper List for Ackermanville.
Websites to Help With Your Genealogy Research ...
When we do our genealogical research, we begin with the websites from Cyndi's List, FamilySearch and Genealogy Trails. These websites either offer the information directly or else point to where you can find it. Their information is open to everyone.
To help you get started, the following links will take you to the pages that are relevant to Ackermanville:
- Websites specific to Pennsylvania
- Pages specific to Northampton County
- Genealogy information for nearby counties
- Bucks County
- Carbon County
- Lehigh County
- Luzerne County
- Monroe County
- Pike County
- Schuylkill County
- Hunterdon County
- Morris County
- Somerset County
- Sussex County
- Warren County
- Cemetery Information and Directories for Pennsylvania
Footnotes ...
| <1> | While we're fans and frequent users of TripAdvisor, you should know that we're also members of the TripAdvisor affiliate program. |
| <2> | The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com. |
| <3> | We use the term 'Historic' broadly and it generally means that the community no longer exists. However, it can also mean that the community might still exist, but was significantly larger or had a more 'official' existence in the past than it does now. Unfortunately our sources of data have proven to be unreliable. If you can provide us with more specific information about Ackermanville, please let us know so that we can improve our accuracy. |
| <4> | Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'straight-line' (or point-to-point) distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line drawn from Point A (ie- Ackermanville) to Point B. In other words: 'As the crow flies'. |