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Introduction ...

We have a couple of goals for our Gazetteer:

  • That it be a tool which helps us with planning our trips.
  • We're trying to shape our Gazetteer as a tool to help us understand the community in which our ancestors lived, the community that was part of their daily lives.
  • On our trips, we try to visit those places where our ancestors left their footprints.

By learning about Johns Place (and the surrounding area) during the time that our ancestors lived, we hope to have a better understanding of both their community and its relationship to their lifes. We hope that this tool helps to give us an insight into their world.

As we add data and organize our Gazetteer to help with our family research, we will be adding to this our Genealogical Helper for Johns Place. While we don't have information that is specific to any given person or family, we intend to expand our understanding about where and how people lived.

Name Variations for Johns Place ...

When searching records, keep in mind that names and their spelling can change over time. Our sources include documents like maps, railroad schedules, Travel, Express and Shipping Guides. Many of these documents date from the 1800's and it's common to find spelling differences.

Although we can't give a definitive list, hopefully the following will give you a feel for the variations that might have occurred.

  • A typical abbreviation for Johns Place: Johns Pl. (or less commonly used: Johns Plc.)
  • While the name of this community is Johns Place, be aware that it's the common practice of mapmakers to remove the apostrophe from possessive names<1>. So Johns Place may originally have been John's Place.

    Sometimes the trailing 's' might be dropped altogether, in which case Johns Place might be written as John Place.

If you have information about these names (such as the reason for the change, date of change, the origin of the name), please Contact Us.

Neighboring Counties ...

When searching for family records, we have frequently made the mistake of not checking the neighboring counties.

For example, we have great-grandparents who lived in the southwest corner of their home county. During their lives, most hospitals and doctors were in the next county to the west. Almost all of the nearby churches and cemeteries were in the county to the south.

So when searching for records, we had our best success by looking in neighboring counties instead of the county in which they lived:  their home county contained property and probate records; the county to the west contained birth and death records; the county to the south contained their burial records. If we hadn't included the neighboring counties, we would have missed many valuable sources of information.

If you're in a similar situation, we hope that the following information helps.

Johns Place is located in Torrance County.

To see how the shape of New Mexico's counties have changed over time, we recommend the Atlas of Historical County Boundaries.

The following counties adjoin and form the boundaries of Torrance County: Bernalillo, Guadalupe, Lincoln, San Miguel, Santa Fe, Socorro & Valencia.

Below are the counties that are near Johns Place. For each of these counties, we show a sample of those communities that are closest to Johns Place:

  • Torrance County     (The home county of Johns Place)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Johns Place, with the one closest to Johns Place listed first.
    • Moriarty
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the east)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Moriarty have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Moriarty
      • Moriarty is located in Torrance County
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,841 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Moriarty <3>
    • McIntosh
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
    • Estancia
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the south)
    • Tajique
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
    • Clines Corners
      (23 miles [37 km] to the east)
    • Torreon
      (23 miles [37 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Torreon have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Torreon
      • Torreon is located in Torrance County
    • Willard
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the south)
    • Manzano
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Manzano have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Manzano
      • Manzano is located in Torrance County
  • Bernalillo County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Johns Place, with the one closest to Johns Place listed first.
    • Chilili
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Chilili have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Chilili
      • Chilili is located in Bernalillo County
    • Ponderosa Pine
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the west)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ponderosa Pine
      • Ponderosa Pine is located in Bernalillo County
    • Sandia Knolls
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sandia Knolls
      • Sandia Knolls is located in Bernalillo County
    • Tijeras
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the west)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Tijeras have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tijeras
      • Tijeras is located in Bernalillo County
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 534 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Tijeras <3>
    • Cedar Crest
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the west)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Cedar Crest have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cedar Crest
      • Cedar Crest is located in Bernalillo County
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Cedar Crest <3>
    • Canoncito
      (18 miles [29 km] to the northwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Canoncito
      • Canoncito is located in Bernalillo County
    • Sandia Park
      (18 miles [29 km] to the northwest)
    • Monticello
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the west)
    • Carnuel
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the west)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Carnuel have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Carnuel
      • Carnuel is located in Bernalillo County
    • Canada Village
      (23 miles [37 km] to the west)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Canada Village have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Canada Village
      • Canada Village is located in Bernalillo County
    • Sandia Heights
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sandia Heights
      • Sandia Heights is located in Bernalillo County
    • Hoffmantown
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the west)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hoffmantown
      • Hoffmantown is located in Bernalillo County
  • Sandoval County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Johns Place, with the one closest to Johns Place listed first.
    • Diamond Tail Ranch
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Diamond Tail Ranch
      • Diamond Tail Ranch is located in Sandoval County
    • Placitas
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Placitas have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Placitas
      • Placitas is located in Sandoval County
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Placitas <3>
  • Santa Fe County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Johns Place, with the one closest to Johns Place listed first.
    • Edgewood
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the northwest)
    • Stanley
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northeast)
    • Cedar Grove
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Cedar Grove have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cedar Grove
      • Cedar Grove is located in Santa Fe County
    • San Pedro
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for San Pedro have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for San Pedro
      • San Pedro is located in Santa Fe County
    • Galisteo
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Galisteo have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Galisteo
      • Galisteo is located in Santa Fe County
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Galisteo <3>
    • Madrid
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Madrid have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Madrid
      • Madrid is located in Santa Fe County
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Madrid <3>
    • Los Cerrillos
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the north)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Los Cerrillos
      • Los Cerrillos is located in Santa Fe County
      • Los Cerrillos has also been known as:
      • Cerrillos
  • Valencia County
    • Meadow Lake
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Meadow Lake have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Meadow Lake
      • Meadow Lake is located in Valencia County

For an expanded list of the communities that are closest to Johns Place, see our County-by-County Page for Johns Place.

Newspapers Published in Johns Place ...

An ongoing effort between the Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) has resulted in the National Digital Newspaper Program (NDNP).

To share their results, the partnership has created the Chronicling America website. The goal of this partnership is to assemble a database about the current and historic newspapers of the United States. This includes a growing collection of scanned images from selected papers. All of it available to the public on their website.

Using information that we've taken from the Chronicling America website, we've identified 28 newspapers that have been published in the area around Johns Place.

Although we're unaware of any newspapers that were published in the immediate area of Johns Place, there are papers which were published within 29 miles [46.7 km]<4>. A list of those papers, sorted by paper name, can be found on the Extended Newspaper List for Johns Place.

Websites to Help With Your Genealogy Research ...

When we do our genealogical research, we begin with the websites from Cyndi's List, FamilySearch and Genealogy Trails. These websites offer the information directly or else point to where you can find it. Their information is open to everyone.

To help you get started, the following links will take you to the pages that are relevant to Johns Place:

Cemeteries Near Johns Place ...

Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Johns Place.

This is a new section and is likely to have errors. If you find an error, such as a missing cemetery or we have the wrong name, please let us know. If you know of them, we would also appreciate learning about previous or alternate names.

If you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our selection of Genealogy Websites (see below).

If not found below, our Cemetery List for Johns Place covers a larger area, with the cemeteries listed in alphabetical order.

The following cemeteries are listed based on their distance from Johns Place, with the one closest to Johns Place listed first.

  • Mountain View Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the southeast)
  • Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the southeast)
  • Mt. View Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the southeast)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mt. View Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mt. View Cemetery
  • Mt. Carmel Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the southeast)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mt. Carmel Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mt. Carmel Cemetery
  • Mountain Valley Cemetery
    (9 miles [14.5 km] to the northwest)
  • McIntosh Cemetery
    (10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the McIntosh Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the McIntosh Cemetery
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #38220 <5>
  • Chilili Cemetery
    (11 miles [17.7 km] to the southwest)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Chilili Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • The Chilili Cemetery has also been known as:
    • Gardner Cemetery
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Chilili Cemetery
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #38002 <5>
  • St. John Nepomucene Cemetery
    (11 miles [17.7 km] to the southwest)
  • Chilili New Cemetery
    (11 miles [17.7 km] to the southwest)
    • The Chilili New Cemetery has also been known as:
    • Cath Cemetery
    • Garland Cemetery
    • St. John Nepomucene Cemetery
    • San Juan Nepomoceno Cemetery
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Chilili New Cemetery
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #38080 <5>
  • Juan Tomas Cemetery
    (11 miles [17.7 km] to the west)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Juan Tomas Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Juan Tomas Cemetery
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #38145 <5>
  • Escabosa Cemetery
    (12 miles [19.3 km] to the southwest)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Escabosa Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Escabosa Cemetery
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #38052 <5>
  • Cedar Grove Cemetery
    (12 miles [19.3 km] to the northwest)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Cedar Grove Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Cedar Grove Cemetery
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #37989 <5>
  • Continue List   (47 more) ...

Nearby Communities in 1895 ...

We've built the following list with information that came from an Atlas published by Rand McNally in 1895. The Atlas had details such as the population of the community (which appears to have come from the 1890 Census) and whether there was a post office and/or railroad service available. We also indicate if the community no longer exists and is now historic.<6>

While we didn't find Johns Place in the Atlas, the following 1895 communities would have been found near the current location of Johns Place.

These communities are listed based on their distance from Johns Place, with the one closest to Johns Place listed first.

  • San Pedro
    (16 miles [25.7 km] to the northwest)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for San Pedro have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for San Pedro
    • San Pedro is located in Santa Fe County
  • Golden ‑ Historic
    (18 miles [29 km] to the north)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Golden have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Golden
    • Golden is located in Santa Fe County
  • Ortiz ‑ Historic
    (22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Ortiz have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ortiz
    • Ortiz is located in Santa Fe County
  • Los Cerrillos
    (29 miles [46.7 km] to the north)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Los Cerrillos
    • Los Cerrillos is located in Santa Fe County
    • Los Cerrillos has also been known as:
    • Cerrillos

We've also created an expanded list of communities that existed in the 1890's and were located in the area around Johns Place. See our List of 1890's Communities around Johns Place.

Unfortunately, we don't know of a website for Johns Place. If you can help, please contact us through our Feedback Page.

The official website for Torrance County: www.torrancecountynm.org/

The official website for State of New Mexico: www.newmexico.gov/

Footnotes ...

<1>It's generally believed that possessive apostrophes are removed to prevent confusion on maps where the apostrophe may be confused with a cartographic symbol. While this is generally true, it's not uncommon to find possessive apostrophes in administrative names (such as towns or counties).
<2>The location has been supplied by the Geographic Names Information System - which is maintained by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). While these values should be definitive, we found that accuracy can vary and you should double-check the location if accuracy is required.
<3>While we're fans and frequent users of TripAdvisor, you should know that we're also members of the TripAdvisor affiliate program.
<4>Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'straight-line' (or point-to-point) distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line from Point A (ie- Johns Place) to Point B.Our distance measurements begin at a specific point in Johns Place. The point we use is located at these GPS coordinates - Latitude: 35.0128, Longitude: -106.0889       In this case, the coordinates for Johns Place have been provided by the Geographic Names Information System (GNIS).
<5>The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com.
<6>We use the term 'Historic' broadly and it generally means that the community no longer exists. However, it can also mean that the community might still exist, but was significantly larger or had a more 'official' existence in the past than it does now. Unfortunately our sources of data have proven to be unreliable. If you can provide us with more specific information about Johns Place, please let us know so that we can improve our accuracy.









 

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