Our Genealogy Helper
Introduction ...
We have a couple of goals for our Gazetteer:
That it be a tool which helps us with planning our trips.
We're trying to shape our Gazetteer as a tool to help us understand the community in which our ancestors lived, the community that was part of their daily lives.
On our trips, we try to visit those places where our ancestors left their footprints.
By learning about Pence (and the surrounding area) during the time that our ancestors lived, we hope to have a better understanding of both their community and its relationship to their lifes. We hope that this tool helps to give us an insight into their world.
As we add data and organize our Gazetteer to help with our family research, we will be adding to this our Genealogical Helper for Pence. While we don't have information that is specific to any given person or family, we intend to expand our understanding about where and how people lived.
Neighboring Counties ...
When searching for family records, we have frequently made the mistake of not checking the neighboring counties.
For example, we have great-grandparents who lived in the southeast corner of their home county. During their lives, most doctors were in the next county to the east. Almost all of the nearby churches and cemeteries were in the county to the south.
So when searching for records, we had our best success by looking in neighboring counties instead of the county in which they lived: their home county contained property and probate records; the county to the east contained birth and death records; the county to the south contained their burial records. If we hadn't included the neighboring counties, we would have missed many valuable sources of information.
If you're in a similar situation, we hope that the following information helps.
Pence is located in Wolfe County .
To see how the shape of Kentucky's counties may have changed over time, we recommend the Atlas of Historical County Boundaries .
The following counties adjoin and form the boundaries of Wolfe County : Breathitt , Lee , Magoffin , Menifee , Morgan & Powell .
Below are the counties that are near Pence. For each of these counties, we show a sample of those communities that are closest to Pence:
Wolfe County (The home county of Pence)
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Bethany (Less than 2 miles to the north)
Bethany is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bethany Mary (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northwest)
Mary is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mary Lexie (7 miles [11.3 km] to the northeast)
Lexie is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lexie Campton (8 miles [12.9 km] to the northwest)
Lee City (10 miles [16.1 km] to the northeast)
Lee City is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lee City Hazel Green (11 miles [17.7 km] to the north)
Hazel Green is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hazel Green Belknap (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northeast)
Belknap is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Belknap Helechawa (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northeast)
Helechawa is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Helechawa Pine Ridge (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northwest)
Rogers (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northwest)
Toliver (12 miles [19.3 km] to the north)
Toliver is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Toliver Valeria (13 miles [20.9 km] to the north)
Valeria is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Valeria
Bath County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Suddith (27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
Suddith is located in Bath County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Suddith Pine Grove (29 miles [46.7 km] to the north)
Pine Grove is located in Bath County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pine Grove Little Slate Creek (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
Little Slate Creek is located in Bath County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Little Slate Creek Mill Creek (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
Mill Creek is located in Bath County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mill Creek
Breathitt County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Vancleve (3 miles [4.8 km] to the east)
Vancleve is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Vancleve Frozen Creek (4 miles [6.4 km] to the southeast)
Frozen Creek is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Frozen Creek Wolverine (5 miles [8 km] to the southeast)
Wolverine is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wolverine Oakdale (5 miles [8 km] to the southwest)
Oakdale is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oakdale Chenowee (6 miles [9.7 km] to the south)
Chenowee is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Chenowee Taulbee (7 miles [11.3 km] to the east)
Taulbee is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Taulbee Jackson (7 miles [11.3 km] to the southeast)
Copebranch (8 miles [12.9 km] to the south)
Copebranch is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Copebranch Rock Lick (9 miles [14.5 km] to the east)
Rock Lick is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Rock Lick Jetts Creek (9 miles [14.5 km] to the south)
Jetts Creek is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jetts Creek Quicksand (9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
Quicksand is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Quicksand Kragon (11 miles [17.7 km] to the southeast)
Kragon is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Kragon
Clay County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Teges (25 miles [40.2 km] to the southwest)
Teges is located in Clay County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Teges Oneida (26 miles [41.8 km] to the south)
Oneida is located in Clay County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oneida Sextons Creek (27 miles [43.5 km] to the southwest)
Sextons Creek is located in Clay County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sextons Creek Barcreek (29 miles [46.7 km] to the south)
Barcreek is located in Clay County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Barcreek Laurel Creek (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southwest)
Laurel Creek is located in Clay County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Laurel Creek
Estill County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Furnace (21 miles [33.8 km] to the northwest)
Furnace is located in Estill County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Furnace Miller's Creek (23 miles [37 km] to the west)
Miller's Creek is located in Estill County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Miller's Creek Lynch Town (26 miles [41.8 km] to the west)
Lynch Town is located in Estill County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lynch Town Ravenna (26 miles [41.8 km] to the west)
Wagersville (26 miles [41.8 km] to the west)
Wagersville is located in Estill County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wagersville Irvine (27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
Jackson County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Foxtown (29 miles [46.7 km] to the west)
Foxtown is located in Jackson County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Foxtown Gray Hawk (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southwest)
Gray Hawk is located in Jackson County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gray Hawk Tyner (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southwest)
Tyner is located in Jackson County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tyner
Knott County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Emmalena (29 miles [46.7 km] to the southeast)
Emmalena is located in Knott County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Emmalena Fisty (29 miles [46.7 km] to the southeast)
Fisty is located in Knott County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fisty Vest (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southeast)
Lee County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Williba (5 miles [8 km] to the west)
Williba is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Williba Vada (6 miles [9.7 km] to the west)
Vada is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Vada Athol (7 miles [11.3 km] to the southwest)
Athol is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Athol Primrose (7 miles [11.3 km] to the west)
Primrose is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Primrose Tallega (8 miles [12.9 km] to the southwest)
Tallega is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tallega Fincastle (9 miles [14.5 km] to the west)
Fincastle is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fincastle Lone (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
Lone is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lone Saint Helens (10 miles [16.1 km] to the west)
Zoe (11 miles [17.7 km] to the west)
Zoe is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Zoe Zachariah (12 miles [19.3 km] to the northwest)
Zachariah is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Zachariah Beattyville (13 miles [20.9 km] to the west)
Heidelberg (17 miles [27.4 km] to the west)
Heidelberg is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Heidelberg
Leslie County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Confluence (25 miles [40.2 km] to the south)
Confluence is located in Leslie County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Confluence Sizerock (28 miles [45.1 km] to the south)
Sizerock is located in Leslie County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sizerock
Magoffin County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Netty (15 miles [24.1 km] to the northeast)
Netty is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Netty Ova (17 miles [27.4 km] to the east)
Ova is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ova Hendricks (20 miles [32.2 km] to the east)
Hendricks is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hendricks Edna (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
Edna is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Edna Elsie (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
Elsie is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Elsie Lakeville (22 miles [35.4 km] to the east)
Lakeville is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lakeville Salyersville (23 miles [37 km] to the east)
Cisco (23 miles [37 km] to the northeast)
Cisco is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cisco Royalton (24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
Royalton is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Royalton Sublett (24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
Sublett is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sublett Maggard (24 miles [38.6 km] to the northeast)
Maggard is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Maggard Logville (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northeast)
Logville is located in Magoffin County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Logville
Menifee County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Denniston (19 miles [30.6 km] to the north)
Denniston is located in Menifee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Denniston Wellington (19 miles [30.6 km] to the north)
Wellington is located in Menifee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wellington Mariba (20 miles [32.2 km] to the north)
Mariba is located in Menifee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mariba Korea (21 miles [33.8 km] to the north)
Korea is located in Menifee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Korea Frenchburg (23 miles [37 km] to the north)
Rothwell (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
Rothwell is located in Menifee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Rothwell Sudith (27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
Sudith is located in Menifee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sudith Means (27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
Means is located in Menifee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Means
Montgomery County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Jeffersonville (29 miles [46.7 km] to the northwest)
Hope (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
Hope is located in Montgomery County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hope
Morgan County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Maytown (14 miles [22.5 km] to the north)
Maytown is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Maytown Cannel City (15 miles [24.1 km] to the northeast)
Cannel City is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cannel City Mize (16 miles [25.7 km] to the north)
Mize is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mize Ezel (17 miles [27.4 km] to the north)
Ezel is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ezel Grassy Creek (17 miles [27.4 km] to the northeast)
Grassy Creek is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Grassy Creek Malone (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
Malone is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Malone Ebon (22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
Ebon is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ebon West Liberty (23 miles [37 km] to the northeast)
Yocum (25 miles [40.2 km] to the north)
Yocum is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Yocum Dingus (27 miles [43.5 km] to the northeast)
Dingus is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dingus Wrigley (28 miles [45.1 km] to the north)
Wrigley is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wrigley Elkfork (29 miles [46.7 km] to the northeast)
Elkfork is located in Morgan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Elkfork
Owsley County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Lerose (13 miles [20.9 km] to the southwest)
Lerose is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lerose Booneville (15 miles [24.1 km] to the southwest)
Pebworth (16 miles [25.7 km] to the southwest)
Pebworth is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pebworth Ricetown (18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
Ricetown is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ricetown Southfork (18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
Southfork is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Southfork Vincent (19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
Vincent is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Vincent Sebastian (20 miles [32.2 km] to the southwest)
Sebastian is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sebastian Travellers Rest (21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
Travellers Rest is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Travellers Rest Mistletoe (23 miles [37 km] to the south)
Mistletoe is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mistletoe Island City (24 miles [38.6 km] to the southwest)
Island City is located in Owsley County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Island City
Perry County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Buckhorn (19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
Chavies (20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
Chavies is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Chavies Gays Creek (21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
Gays Creek is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gays Creek Stacy (21 miles [33.8 km] to the southeast)
Stacy is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stacy Krypton (23 miles [37 km] to the south)
Krypton is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Krypton Dice (23 miles [37 km] to the southeast)
Dice is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dice Saul (24 miles [38.6 km] to the south)
Saul is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Saul Ary (25 miles [40.2 km] to the southeast)
Yerkes (26 miles [41.8 km] to the south)
Yerkes is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Yerkes Busy (26 miles [41.8 km] to the southeast)
Busy is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Busy Butterfly (26 miles [41.8 km] to the southeast)
Butterfly is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Butterfly Bonnyman (27 miles [43.5 km] to the southeast)
Bonnyman is located in Perry County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bonnyman
Powell County
The following are listed by their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Barker Branch (15 miles [24.1 km] to the northwest)
Barker Branch is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Barker Branch Slade (16 miles [25.7 km] to the northwest)
South Fork (17 miles [27.4 km] to the northwest)
South Fork is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for South Fork Cat Creek (22 miles [35.4 km] to the northwest)
Cat Creek is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cat Creek Knowlton (22 miles [35.4 km] to the northwest)
Knowlton is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Knowlton Upper Cane (22 miles [35.4 km] to the northwest)
Upper Cane is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Upper Cane Pecks Creek (23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
Pecks Creek is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pecks Creek Rosslyn (23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
Rosslyn is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Rosslyn Hatton Creek (24 miles [38.6 km] to the northwest)
Hatton Creek is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hatton Creek North Bend (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
North Bend is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for North Bend Stanton (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
Morris Creek (27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
Morris Creek is located in Powell County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Morris Creek
Rowan County
Mount Hope (28 miles [45.1 km] to the north)
Mount Hope is located in Rowan County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mount Hope
For an expanded list of the communities that are closest to Pence, see our County-by-County Page for Pence .
Cemeteries Near Pence ...
Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Pence.
This is a new section and is likely to have errors. If you find an error, such as a missing cemetery or we have the wrong name, please let us know . If you know of them, we would also appreciate learning about previous or alternate names.
Although we don't have the information ourselves, if you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Pence - one of the links might be able to help.
If not found below, our Cemetery List for Pence covers a larger area, with the cemeteries listed in alphabetical order.
The following cemeteries are listed based on their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Pence Cemetery (Less than 2 miles to the southwest)
Haddix Cemetery (Less than 2 miles to the northeast)
Rose Cemetery (Less than 2 miles to the southwest)
Trent Cemetery (2 miles [3.2 km] to the south)
White Oak Cemetery (2 miles [3.2 km] to the southeast)
Hollon Cemetery (2 miles [3.2 km] to the north)
Day Cemetery (3 miles [4.8 km] to the southeast)
Puckett Cemetery (3 miles [4.8 km] to the east)
Banks - Taulbee Cemetery (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northwest)
Dunn Cemetery (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
Hurst Cemetery (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
Terrell Cemetery (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
Continue List (680 more) ...
Taulbee & Burton Cemetery (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northwest)
Arnold and Hobbs Cemetery (4 miles [6.4 km] to the west)
Cable Cemetery (4 miles [6.4 km] to the west)
Nearby Communities in 1895 ...
We've built the following list with information that came from an Atlas published by Rand McNally in 1895. The Atlas had details such as the population of the community (which appears to have come from the 1890 Census) and whether there was a post office and/or railroad service available. We also indicate if the community no longer exists and is now historic.<3>
While we didn't find Pence in the Atlas, the following 1895 communities would have been found near the current location of Pence.
These communities are listed based on their distance from Pence, with the one closest to Pence listed first.
Frozen Creek (4 miles [6.4 km] to the southeast)
Frozen Creek is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Frozen Creek Paxton (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
Paxton is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Paxton Elkatawa (5 miles [8 km] to the southeast)
Elkatawa is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Elkatawa Chenowee (6 miles [9.7 km] to the south)
Chenowee is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Chenowee Monica (7 miles [11.3 km] to the southwest)
Monica is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Monica Athol (7 miles [11.3 km] to the southwest)
Athol is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Athol Jackson (7 miles [11.3 km] to the southeast)
Taulbee (7 miles [11.3 km] to the east)
Taulbee is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Taulbee Tallega (8 miles [12.9 km] to the southwest)
Tallega is located in Lee County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tallega Copebranch (8 miles [12.9 km] to the south)
Copebranch is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Copebranch Campton (8 miles [12.9 km] to the northwest)
Stillwater (8 miles [12.9 km] to the north)
Stillwater is located in Wolfe County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stillwater Continue List (16 more) ...
Jetts Creek (9 miles [14.5 km] to the south)
Jetts Creek is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jetts Creek Shoulderblade (9 miles [14.5 km] to the south)
Shoulderblade is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Shoulderblade Quicksand (9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
Quicksand is located in Breathitt County Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Quicksand
We've also created an expanded list of communities that existed in the 1890's and were located in the area around Pence. See our List of 1890's Communities around Pence .
Newspapers Published in Pence ...
An ongoing effort between the Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) has resulted in the National Digital Newspaper Program (NDNP) .
To share their results, the partnership has created the Chronicling America website. The goal of this partnership is to assemble a database about the current and historic newspapers of the United States. This includes a growing collection of scanned images from selected papers. All of it available to the public on their website.
Using information that we've taken from the Chronicling America website, we've identified 20 newspapers that have been published in the area around Pence.
Although we're unaware of any newspapers that were published in the immediate area of Pence, there are papers which were published within 15 miles [24.1 km]<4> . A list of those papers, sorted by paper name, can be found on the Extended Newspaper List for Pence.
Websites to Help With Your Genealogy Research ...
When we do our genealogical research, we like to start with the websites from Cyndi's List, FamilySearch and Genealogy Trails. These helpful websites offer the information directly or else point to where you can find it. Their information is open to everyone.
To help you get started, the following links will take you to the pages that are relevant to Pence:
Websites specific to Kentucky
Pages specific to Wolfe County
Genealogy information for nearby counties
Bath County
Breathitt County
Clay County
Estill County
Jackson County
Knott County
Lee County
Leslie County
Magoffin County
Menifee County
Montgomery County
Morgan County
Owsley County
Perry County
Powell County
Rowan County
Cemetery Information and Directories for Kentucky
Off-the-Road Links ...
Unfortunately, we don't know of a website for Pence. If you can help, please contact us through our Feedback Page .
The official website for State of Kentucky: https://www.kentucky.gov/
Footnotes ...
<1> While we're fans and frequent users of TripAdvisor, you should know that we're also members of the TripAdvisor affiliate program.
<2>The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com .
<3>We use the term 'Historic' broadly and it generally means that the community no longer exists. However, it can also mean that the community might still exist, but was significantly larger or had a more 'official' existence in the past than it does now. Unfortunately our sources of data have proven to be unreliable. If you can provide us with more specific information about Pence, please let us know so that we can improve our accuracy.
<4>Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'point-to-point' distance. A straight line distance ignores obstructions like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line from Point A (ie- Pence) to Point B. In other words: 'As the crow flies'.