Nearby Cemeteries

Introduction

Below are cemeteries that are within 30 miles [48.3 km]<1> of the Lochalsh Cemetery. The cemeteries are listed in alphabetical order.

Since our focus is on geography, we don't have any burial or interment information. Nor do we have any contact information for the Lochalsh Cemetery. For information of that nature, we recommend you visit Find-A-Grave's<2> entry for the Lochalsh Cemetery (FG ID #2315767).

We are always looking for corrections and additions to our Gazetteer. If you can help, we are looking for information such as the name of the cemetery, its GPS coordinates, whether the cemetery is still in use or if it is historic (ie- defunct, abandoned, etc.). If it applies, we would also like to learn of any past or alternate names that the cemetery may have been known by.

We've listed the following cemeteries based on their distance from Lochalsh Cemetery, with the nearest first.

Olivet United Church / Verdun Methodist Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Olivet United Church / Verdun Methodist Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2393247 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Olivet United Church / Verdun Methodist Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Olivet United Church / Verdun Methodist Cemetery
Verdun Methodist Cemetery
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Verdun Methodist Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Verdun Methodist Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Verdun Methodist Cemetery
Hope Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Hope Cemetery
- The Hope Cemetery has also been known as:
- Hope Church Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Hope Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Hope Cemetery
Huron Presbyterian Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Huron Presbyterian Cemetery
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Huron Presbyterian Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
- The Huron Presbyterian Cemetery has also been known as:
- Lewis Cemetery
- Old Lewis Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2563457 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Huron Presbyterian Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Huron Presbyterian Cemetery
Ripley / Huron Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Ripley / Huron Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Ripley / Huron Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the west of Ripley.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2384347 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Ripley / Huron Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Ripley / Huron Cemetery
St. Joseph's RC Cemetery
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Joseph's RC Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. Joseph's RC Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. Joseph's RC Cemetery
Greenhill Cemetery
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Greenhill Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Greenhill Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the southwest of Lucknow.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2173959 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Greenhill Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Greenhill Cemetery
South Kinloss Cemetery
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the South Kinloss Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2188036 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the South Kinloss Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the South Kinloss Cemetery
Kinloss Mennonite Cemetery
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Kinloss Mennonite Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Kinloss Mennonite Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Kinloss Mennonite Cemetery
Martinfield Mennonite Cemetery
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Martinfield Mennonite Cemetery
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Martinfield Mennonite Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Martinfield Mennonite Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Martinfield Mennonite Cemetery
Kincardine Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Kincardine Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2185943 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Kincardine Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Kincardine Cemetery
Dungannon Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Dungannon Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Dungannon Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the west of Dungannon.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2210735 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Dungannon Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Dungannon Cemetery
Langside Mennonite Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Langside Mennonite Cemetery
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Langside Mennonite Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2396887 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Langside Mennonite Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Langside Mennonite Cemetery
Langside Cemetery
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Langside Cemetery
- The Langside Cemetery has also been known as:
- Langside - Tiffins Cemetery
- Tiffins Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2355768 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Langside Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Langside Cemetery
St. Augustine RC Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Augustine RC Cemetery
- The St. Augustine RC Cemetery has also been known as:
- St. Augustine Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2360256 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. Augustine RC Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. Augustine RC Cemetery
Westfield Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Westfield Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Westfield Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Westfield Cemetery
Culross - Teeswater Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Culross - Teeswater Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2267314 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Culross - Teeswater Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Culross - Teeswater Cemetery
Wingham Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Wingham Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Wingham Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the north of Wingham.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #1998201 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Wingham Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Wingham Cemetery
Smith's Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Smith's Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2415167 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Smith's Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Smith's Cemetery
Durham Road Baptist Church Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Durham Road Baptist Church Cemetery
- The Durham Road Baptist Church Cemetery has also been known as:
- Durham Road Baptist / Riversdale Baptist Cemetery
- Riversdale Baptist Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2480502 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Durham Road Baptist Church Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Durham Road Baptist Church Cemetery
Colborne Cemetery
(18 miles [29 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Colborne Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Colborne Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the east of Goderich.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2310774 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Colborne Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Colborne Cemetery
Brandon Cemetery
(18 miles [29 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Brandon Cemetery
- The Brandon Cemetery has also been known as:
- Brandon - Belgrave Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2358407 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Brandon Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Brandon Cemetery
Tiverton Cemetery
(18 miles [29 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Tiverton Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Tiverton Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Tiverton Cemetery
Maitland Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Maitland Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Maitland Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the east of Goderich.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2195160 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Maitland Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Maitland Cemetery
Ball's Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Ball's Cemetery
- The Ball's Cemetery has also been known as:
- Ball's Burial Ground / Ball's Methodist Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2264299 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Ball's Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Ball's Cemetery
Lutheran / German Evangelical Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Lutheran / German Evangelical Cemetery
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Lutheran / German Evangelical Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Lutheran / German Evangelical Cemetery is located 3 miles [4.8 km]<1> to the east of Blyth.
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Lutheran / German Evangelical Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Lutheran / German Evangelical Cemetery
Purdy Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Purdy Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2313025 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Purdy Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Purdy Cemetery
EUB Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the EUB Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2353438 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the EUB Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the EUB Cemetery
Blyth Union Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Blyth Union Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Blyth Union Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the west of Blyth.
- The Blyth Union Cemetery has also been known as:
- Union Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2177169 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Blyth Union Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Blyth Union Cemetery
Immaculate Conception RC Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Immaculate Conception RC Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2207777 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Immaculate Conception RC Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Immaculate Conception RC Cemetery
St. Michael's RC Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Michael's RC Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. Michael's RC Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. Michael's RC Cemetery
St. John's Anglican / McCutcheon Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. John's Anglican / McCutcheon Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. John's Anglican / McCutcheon Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. John's Anglican / McCutcheon Cemetery
Wroxeter Orthodox Mennonite Church Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Wroxeter Orthodox Mennonite Church Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Wroxeter Orthodox Mennonite Church Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Wroxeter Orthodox Mennonite Church Cemetery
Howick Orthodox Mennonite Lakelet Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Howick Orthodox Mennonite Lakelet Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Howick Orthodox Mennonite Lakelet Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Howick Orthodox Mennonite Lakelet Cemetery
Sacred Heart RC Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Sacred Heart RC Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Sacred Heart RC Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Sacred Heart RC Cemetery
St. Matthew's Lutheran Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Matthew's Lutheran Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2432993 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. Matthew's Lutheran Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. Matthew's Lutheran Cemetery
Walkerton Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Walkerton Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Walkerton Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the south of Walkerton.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2188439 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Walkerton Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Walkerton Cemetery
Walkerton Presbyterian Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Walkerton Presbyterian Cemetery
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Walkerton Presbyterian Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2308004 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Walkerton Presbyterian Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Walkerton Presbyterian Cemetery
Jackson's Family Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Jackson's Family Cemetery
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Jackson's Family Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Jackson's Family Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Jackson's Family Cemetery
Clinton Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Clinton Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Clinton Cemetery is located outside and to the north of Clinton.
- The Clinton Cemetery has also been known as:
- Clinton Public Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2297651 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Clinton Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Clinton Cemetery
Brussels Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Brussels Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Brussels Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the southwest of Brussels.
- The Brussels Cemetery has also been known as:
- Brussels United Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2130077 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Brussels Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Brussels Cemetery
Anglican Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Anglican Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Anglican Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Anglican Cemetery
Wroxeter Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Wroxeter Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2161786 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Wroxeter Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Wroxeter Cemetery
McIntosh Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the McIntosh Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the McIntosh Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the McIntosh Cemetery
Mildmay United Church Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mildmay United Church Cemetery
- The Mildmay United Church Cemetery has also been known as:
- Mildmay United / St. Paul's Cemetery
- St. Paul's United Church Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2331083 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Mildmay United Church Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Mildmay United Church Cemetery
Gorrie Public Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Gorrie Public Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Gorrie Public Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Gorrie Public Cemetery
Lakelet Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Lakelet Cemetery
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Lakelet Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Lakelet Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Lakelet Cemetery
St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2472192 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery
St. Ignatius / Deemerton RC Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Ignatius / Deemerton RC Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. Ignatius / Deemerton RC Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. Ignatius / Deemerton RC Cemetery
St. John's Lutheran Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. John's Lutheran Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. John's Lutheran Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. John's Lutheran Cemetery
Salem EUB Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Salem EUB Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Salem EUB Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Salem EUB Cemetery
Molesworth Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Molesworth Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2299288 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Molesworth Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Molesworth Cemetery
Old Hunter Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Old Hunter Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Old Hunter Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Old Hunter Cemetery
Rutledge Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Rutledge Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Rutledge Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Rutledge Cemetery
Carrick Baptist Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Carrick Baptist Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2507349 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Carrick Baptist Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Carrick Baptist Cemetery
St. Francis Xavier RC Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Francis Xavier RC Cemetery
- The St. Francis Xavier RC Cemetery has also been known as:
- St. Francis Xavier Catholic Cemetery
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the St. Francis Xavier RC Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the St. Francis Xavier RC Cemetery
Knox Presbyterian Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Knox Presbyterian Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2363650 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Knox Presbyterian Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Knox Presbyterian Cemetery
Mt. Pleasant Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mt. Pleasant Cemetery
- To give a relative sense of its location, the Mt. Pleasant Cemetery is a large cemetery that is located outside and to the north of Ethel.
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2141938 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Mt. Pleasant Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Mt. Pleasant Cemetery
Rusk's Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Rusk's Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2336419 <2>
- Google driving directions:
- From your current location to the Rusk's Cemetery
- From the Lochalsh Cemetery to the Rusk's Cemetery

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Footnotes ...

<1>	Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'straight-line' (or point-to-point) distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line from Point A (ie- ) to Point B.Our distance measurements begin at a specific point at the Lochalsh Cemetery. The point we use is located at these GPS coordinates - Latitude: 44.0079, Longitude: -81.6317
<2>	The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com.
<3>	An 'estimated' location is one where we have been given GPS coordinates, but are unable to verify the accuracy of those coordinates. That said, we have some confidence that we have placed the marker near the actual location. A typical reason for being unable to verify a location is that it might be on private property or maybe historic and gone without an obvious trace.