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Introduction ...

We have a couple of goals for our Gazetteer:

  • That it be a tool which helps us with planning our trips.
  • We're trying to shape our Gazetteer as a tool to help us understand the community in which our ancestors lived, the community that was part of their daily lives.
  • On our trips, we try to visit those places where our ancestors left their footprints.

By learning about Geddie (and the surrounding area) during the time that our ancestors lived, we hope to have a better understanding of both their community and its relationship to their lifes. We hope that this tool helps to give us an insight into their world.

As we add data and organize our Gazetteer to help with our family research, we will be adding to this our Genealogical Helper for Geddie. While we don't have information that is specific to any given person or family, we intend to expand our understanding about where and how people lived.

Neighboring Parishes/Counties ...

When searching for family records, we have frequently made the mistake of not checking the neighboring parishes/counties.

For example, we have great-grandparents who lived in the northwest corner of their home parish. During their lives, most doctors were in the next parish to the west. Almost all of the nearby churches and cemeteries were in the parish to the north.

So when searching for records, we had our best success by looking in neighboring parishes/counties instead of the parish in which they lived:  their home parish contained property and probate records; the parish to the west contained birth and death records; the parish to the north contained their burial records. If we hadn't included the neighboring parishes/counties, we would have missed many valuable sources of information.

If you're in a similar situation, we hope that the following information helps.

Geddie is located in Morehouse Parish.

To see how the shape of Louisiana's parishes have changed over time, we recommend the Atlas of Historical County Boundaries.

The following parishes adjoin and form the boundaries of Morehouse Parish: Ashley (AR), Chicot (AR), Union (AR), Ouachita, Richland, Union & West Carroll.

Below are the parishes/counties that are near Geddie. For each of these parishes/counties, we show a sample of those communities that are closest to Geddie:

  • Morehouse Parish     (The home parish of Geddie)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.
    • Brodnax ‑ Historic
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Brodnax have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Brodnax
      • Brodnax is located in Morehouse Parish
    • Bonita
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the southeast)
    • Jones
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the east)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Jones have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jones
      • Jones is located in Morehouse Parish
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Jones <2>
    • Bastrop
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the south)
    • Mer Rouge
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the south)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Mer Rouge have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mer Rouge
      • Mer Rouge is located in Morehouse Parish
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 534 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Mer Rouge <2>
    • Collinston
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Collinston have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Collinston
      • Collinston is located in Morehouse Parish
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 241 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Collinston <2>
    • Windsor
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the south)
      • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Windsor. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Windsor
      • Windsor is located in Morehouse Parish
    • Oak Ridge
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the south)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Oak Ridge have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oak Ridge
      • Oak Ridge is located in Morehouse Parish
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 118 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Oak Ridge <2>
  • Ouachita Parish
    • The following are listed by their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.
    • Sterlington
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Sterlington have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sterlington
      • Sterlington is located in Ouachita Parish
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,974 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Sterlington <2>
    • Fairbanks
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the south)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Fairbanks have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fairbanks
      • Fairbanks is located in Ouachita Parish
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Fairbanks <2>
    • Swartz
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the south)
  • Union Parish
    • The following are listed by their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.
    • Haile
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Haile
      • Haile is located in Union Parish
    • Ouachita City
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Ouachita City. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ouachita City
      • Ouachita City is located in Union Parish
    • Marion
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the west)
    • Oakland
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
      • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Oakland. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oakland
      • Oakland is located in Union Parish
  • West Carroll Parish
    • The following are listed by their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.
    • Fiske
      (23 miles [37 km] to the east)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fiske
      • Fiske is located in West Carroll Parish
    • Oak Grove
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Oak Grove have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oak Grove
      • Oak Grove is located in West Carroll Parish
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,518 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Oak Grove <2>
    • Forest
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southeast)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Forest
      • Forest is located in West Carroll Parish
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 335 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Forest <2>
  • Ashley County (AR)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.
    • Elon ‑ Historic
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northeast)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Elon have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Elon
      • Elon is located in Ashley County (AR)
    • Meridian
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the west)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Meridian
      • Meridian is located in Ashley County (AR)
    • Crossett
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Crossett have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Crossett
      • Crossett is located in Ashley County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 4,701 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Crossett <2>
    • North Crossett
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the north)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for North Crossett have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for North Crossett
      • North Crossett is located in Ashley County (AR)
    • West Crossett
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for West Crossett have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for West Crossett
      • West Crossett is located in Ashley County (AR)
    • Hamburg
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the north)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hamburg
      • Hamburg is located in Ashley County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,545 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Hamburg <2>
    • Wilmot
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the east)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Wilmot have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wilmot
      • Wilmot is located in Ashley County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 483 people
    • Parkdale
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Parkdale have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Parkdale
      • Parkdale is located in Ashley County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 250 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Parkdale <2>
    • Fountain Hill
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the north)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fountain Hill
      • Fountain Hill is located in Ashley County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 157 people
    • Portland
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the northeast)
    • Montrose
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the northeast)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Montrose
      • Montrose is located in Ashley County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 298 people
  • Bradley County (AR)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.
    • Blanchton
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Blanchton. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Blanchton
      • Blanchton is located in Bradley County (AR)
    • Johnsville
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the north)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Johnsville
      • Johnsville is located in Bradley County (AR)
    • Long View Ferry
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the north)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Long View Ferry
      • Long View Ferry is located in Bradley County (AR)
    • Sturgis ‑ Historic
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Sturgis have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sturgis
      • Sturgis is located in Bradley County (AR)
    • Ingalls
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
      • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Ingalls. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ingalls
      • Ingalls is located in Bradley County (AR)
  • Union County (AR)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.
    • Felsenthal
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the west)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Felsenthal have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Felsenthal
      • Felsenthal is located in Union County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 139 people
    • Huttig
      (18 miles [29 km] to the west)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Huttig have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Huttig
      • Huttig is located in Union County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 526 people
    • Bolding
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the west)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bolding
      • Bolding is located in Union County (AR)
    • Lapile
      (23 miles [37 km] to the west)
      • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Lapile. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lapile
      • Lapile is located in Union County (AR)
    • Strong
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the west)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Strong
      • Strong is located in Union County (AR)
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 499 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Strong <2>

For an expanded list of the communities that are closest to Geddie, see our Parish-by-Parish Page for Geddie.

Cemeteries Near Geddie ...

Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Geddie.

This is a new section and is likely to have errors. If you find an error, such as a missing cemetery or we have the wrong name, please let us know. If you know of them, we would also appreciate learning about previous or alternate names.

If you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our selection of Genealogy Websites (see below).

If not found below, our Cemetery List for Geddie covers a larger area, with the cemeteries listed in alphabetical order.

The following cemeteries are listed based on their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.

  • Causey Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the southeast)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Causey Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Causey Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Hickory Grove Cemetery
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northwest)
  • Stevenson Cemetery
    (5 miles [8 km] to the southwest)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Stevenson Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Stevenson Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Kelly Cemetery
    (6 miles [9.7 km] to the south)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Kelly Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Kelly Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Neamon Cemetery
    (6 miles [9.7 km] to the south)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Neamon Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Neamon Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Extra UMC Cemetery
    (6 miles [9.7 km] to the east)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Extra UMC Cemetery
    • The Extra UMC Cemetery has also been known as:
    • Extra Cemetery
    • Extra Methodist Church Cemetery
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #53838 <4>
  • Boyd - Hedge Cemetery
    (8 miles [12.9 km] to the west)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Boyd - Hedge Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Boyd - Hedge Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #53160 <4>
  • Antioch Cemetery
    (9 miles [14.5 km] to the north)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Antioch Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Antioch Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • United Cemetery
    (9 miles [14.5 km] to the north)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the United Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the United Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Western Cemetery
    (10 miles [16.1 km] to the northwest)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Western Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Western Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Macedonian Cemetery
    (10 miles [16.1 km] to the northwest)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Macedonian Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Macedonian Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Cooper Lake Cemetery
    (11 miles [17.7 km] to the southeast)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Cooper Lake Cemetery
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Cooper Lake Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
  • Continue List   (148 more) ...
    • Carter Cemetery
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the north)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Carter Cemetery
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Carter Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Pinewood Memorial Park
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the north)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pinewood Memorial Park
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pinewood Memorial Park have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Bell Cemetery
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the south)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Bell Cemetery
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Bell Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.

Nearby Communities in 1895 ...

We've built the following list with information that came from an Atlas published by Rand McNally in 1895. The Atlas had details such as the population of the community (which appears to have come from the 1890 Census) and whether there was a post office and/or railroad service available. We also indicate if the community no longer exists and is now historic.<5>

While we didn't find Geddie in the Atlas, the following 1895 communities would have been found near the current location of Geddie.

These communities are listed based on their distance from Geddie, with the one closest to Geddie listed first.

  • Elon ‑ Historic
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northeast)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Elon have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Elon
    • Elon is located in Ashley County (AR)
  • Causey ‑ Historic
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the south)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Causey have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Causey
    • Causey is located in Morehouse Parish
  • Brodnax ‑ Historic
    (9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Brodnax have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Brodnax
    • Brodnax is located in Morehouse Parish
  • Bonita
    (12 miles [19.3 km] to the southeast)
  • Jones
    (13 miles [20.9 km] to the east)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Jones have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jones
    • Jones is located in Morehouse Parish
    • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Jones <2>
  • Bastrop
    (15 miles [24.1 km] to the south)
  • Hamburg
    (15 miles [24.1 km] to the north)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hamburg
    • Hamburg is located in Ashley County (AR)
    • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,545 people
    • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Hamburg <2>
  • Mer Rouge
    (16 miles [25.7 km] to the south)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Mer Rouge have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mer Rouge
    • Mer Rouge is located in Morehouse Parish
    • Population from the 2020 Census: 534 people
    • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Mer Rouge <2>
  • Cleora ‑ Historic
    (18 miles [29 km] to the south)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Cleora have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cleora
    • Cleora is located in Morehouse Parish
  • Milo
    (20 miles [32.2 km] to the north)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Milo have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Milo
    • Milo is located in Ashley County (AR)
  • Parkdale
    (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
    • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for Parkdale have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Parkdale
    • Parkdale is located in Ashley County (AR)
    • Population from the 2020 Census: 250 people
    • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Parkdale <2>
  • Blanchton
    (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northwest)
    • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Blanchton. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Blanchton
    • Blanchton is located in Bradley County (AR)
  • Continue List   (13 more) ...
    • Marion
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the west)
    • Ouachita City
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for Ouachita City. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<3>
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ouachita City
      • Ouachita City is located in Union Parish
    • De Siard
      (23 miles [37 km] to the southwest)
      • Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for De Siard have been provided by the GNIS.<1> The coordinates still need to be verified.
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for De Siard
      • De Siard is located in Ouachita Parish

We've also created an expanded list of communities that existed in the 1890's and were located in the area around Geddie. See our List of 1890's Communities around Geddie.

Newspapers Published in Geddie ...

An ongoing effort between the Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) has resulted in the National Digital Newspaper Program (NDNP).

To share their results, the partnership has created the Chronicling America website. The goal of this partnership is to assemble a database about the current and historic newspapers of the United States. This includes a growing collection of scanned images from selected papers. All of it available to the public on their website.

Using information that we've taken from the Chronicling America website, we've identified 21 newspapers that have been published in the area around Geddie.

Although we're unaware of any newspapers that were published in the immediate area of Geddie, there are papers which were published within 18 miles [29 km]<6>. A list of those papers, sorted by paper name, can be found on the Extended Newspaper List for Geddie.

Websites to Help With Your Genealogy Research ...

When we do our genealogical research, we begin with the websites from Cyndi's List, FamilySearch and Genealogy Trails. These professional and volunteer websites offer the information directly or else point to where you can find it. Their information is open to everyone.

To help you get started, the following links will take you to the pages that are relevant to Geddie:

Unfortunately, we don't know of a website for Geddie. If you can help, please contact us through our Feedback Page.

The official website for State of Louisiana: https://www.louisiana.gov/

Footnotes ...

<1>The location has been supplied by the Geographic Names Information System - which is maintained by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). While these values should be definitive, we found that accuracy can vary and you should double-check the location if accuracy is required.
<2>While we're fans and frequent users of TripAdvisor, you should know that we're also members of the TripAdvisor affiliate program.
<3>An 'estimated' location is one where we have been given GPS coordinates, but are unable to verify the accuracy of those coordinates. That said, we have some confidence that we have placed the marker near the actual location. A typical reason for being unable to verify a location is that it might be on private property or maybe historic and gone without an obvious trace.
<4>The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com.
<5>We use the term 'Historic' broadly and it generally means that the community no longer exists. However, it can also mean that the community might still exist, but was significantly larger or had a more 'official' existence in the past than it does now. Unfortunately our sources of data have proven to be unreliable. If you can provide us with more specific information about Geddie, please let us know so that we can improve our accuracy.
<6>Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'straight-line' (or point-to-point) distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line drawn from Point A (ie- Geddie) to Point B.Our distance measurements begin at a specific point in Geddie. The point we use is located at these GPS coordinates - Latitude: 33.0037, Longitude: -91.8710       In this case, the coordinates for Geddie have been provided by the Geographic Names Information System (GNIS).




 

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