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Introduction ...

We have a couple of goals for our Gazetteer:

  • That it be a tool which helps us with planning our trips.
  • We're trying to shape our Gazetteer as a tool to help us understand the community in which our ancestors lived, the community that was part of their daily lives.
  • On our trips, we try to visit those places where our ancestors left their footprints.

By learning about Lackey (and the surrounding area) during the time that our ancestors lived, we hope to have a better understanding of both their community and its relationship to their lifes. We hope that this tool helps to give us an insight into their world.

As we add data and organize our Gazetteer to help with our family research, we will be adding to this our Genealogical Helper for Lackey. While we don't have information that is specific to any given person or family, we intend to expand our understanding about where and how people lived.

Neighboring Counties ...

When searching for family records, we have frequently made the mistake of not checking the neighboring counties.

For example, we have great-grandparents who lived in the southwest corner of their home county. During their lives, most hospitals were in the next county to the west. Almost all of the nearby churches and cemeteries were in the county to the south.

So when searching for records, we had our best success by looking in neighboring counties instead of the county in which they lived:  their home county contained property and probate records; the county to the west contained birth and death records; the county to the south contained their burial records. If we hadn't included the neighboring counties, we would have missed many valuable sources of information.

If you're in a similar situation, we hope that the following information helps.

Lackey is located in Floyd County.

To see how the shape of Kentucky's counties may have changed over time, we recommend the Atlas of Historical County Boundaries.

The following counties adjoin and form the boundaries of Floyd County: Breathitt, Johnson, Knott, Magoffin, Martin & Pike.

Below are the counties that are near Lackey. For each of these counties, we show a sample of those communities that are closest to Lackey:

  • Floyd County     (The home county of Lackey)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Garrett
      (Less than 2 miles to the north)
      • Garrett is located in Floyd County
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    • Hueysville
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northwest)
    • Wayland
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the southeast)
      • Wayland is located in Floyd County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wayland
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 373 people
    • Eastern
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
      • Eastern is located in Floyd County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Eastern
    • Dema
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the south)
      • Dema is located in Floyd County
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    • Drift
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
      • Drift is located in Floyd County
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    • Minnie
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
      • Minnie is located in Floyd County
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    • Langley
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
      • Langley is located in Floyd County
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    • Maytown
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
      • Maytown is located in Floyd County
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    • McDowell
      (5 miles [8 km] to the east)
    • Manton ‑ Historic
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the north)
      • Manton is located in Floyd County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Manton
    • Printer
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the northeast)
      • Printer is located in Floyd County
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    • Warco
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the northeast)
      • Warco is located in Floyd County
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  • Breathitt County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Hardshell
      (23 miles [37 km] to the west)
      • Hardshell is located in Breathitt County
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    • Rousseau
      (23 miles [37 km] to the west)
      • Rousseau is located in Breathitt County
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    • Bays
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
      • Bays is located in Breathitt County
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    • Clayhole
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the west)
      • Clayhole is located in Breathitt County
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    • Flintville
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the west)
      • Flintville is located in Breathitt County
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    • Lost Creek
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
      • Lost Creek is located in Breathitt County
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    • Kragon
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the west)
      • Kragon is located in Breathitt County
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    • Quicksand
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the west)
      • Quicksand is located in Breathitt County
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    • Rock Lick
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Rock Lick is located in Breathitt County
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    • Taulbee
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
      • Taulbee is located in Breathitt County
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    • Jackson
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the west)
    • Whick
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the west)
      • Whick is located in Breathitt County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Whick
  • Johnson County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • East Point
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the north)
    • Nero
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the north)
      • Nero is located in Johnson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Nero
    • Asa
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the north)
      • Asa is located in Johnson County
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    • Collista
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the north)
      • Collista is located in Johnson County
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    • Denver
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the north)
      • Denver is located in Johnson County
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    • Van Lear
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the north)
    • Butcher Hollow
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
      • Butcher Hollow is located in Johnson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Butcher Hollow
    • Hagerhill
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
      • Hagerhill is located in Johnson County
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    • West Van Lear
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
      • West Van Lear is located in Johnson County
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    • Meally
      (23 miles [37 km] to the north)
      • Meally is located in Johnson County
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    • Paintsville
      (23 miles [37 km] to the north)
    • Oil Springs
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the north)
      • Oil Springs is located in Johnson County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oil Springs
    • Staffordsville
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the north)
  • Knott County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Raven
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the south)
      • Raven is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Raven
    • Mousie
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Mousie is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mousie
    • Pippa Passes
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the south)
      • Pippa Passes is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pippa Passes
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 606 people
    • Garner
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the southwest)
      • Garner is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Garner
    • Kite
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
      • Kite is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Kite
    • Leburn
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
    • Vest
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
    • Hindman
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the southwest)
    • Tina
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the southwest)
      • Tina is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tina
    • Pine Top
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the south)
      • Pine Top is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pine Top
    • Carrie
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the southwest)
      • Carrie is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Carrie
    • Emmalena
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the southwest)
      • Emmalena is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Emmalena
    • Fisty
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Fisty is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fisty
  • Letcher County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Deane
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the south)
      • Deane is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Deane
    • Colson
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the south)
      • Colson is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Colson
    • Hemphill
      (18 miles [29 km] to the south)
      • Hemphill is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hemphill
      • Hemphill has also been known as:
      • Jackhorn
    • Isom
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
      • Isom is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Isom
    • Cromona
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
      • Cromona is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cromona
    • Fleming - Neon
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
      • Fleming - Neon is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fleming - Neon
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 610 people
    • Neon
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
    • Thornton
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
      • Thornton is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Thornton
    • Tolliver Town
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
      • Tolliver Town is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tolliver Town
    • McRoberts
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
      • McRoberts is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for McRoberts
    • Farraday
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
      • Farraday is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Farraday
    • Jeremiah
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
    • Millstone
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
      • Millstone is located in Letcher County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Millstone
  • Magoffin County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Gunlock
      (7 miles [11.3 km] to the northwest)
      • Gunlock is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gunlock
    • Gapville
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the northwest)
      • Gapville is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gapville
    • Gypsy
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the northwest)
      • Gypsy is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gypsy
    • Marshallville
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the northwest)
      • Marshallville is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Marshallville
    • Royalton
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the northwest)
      • Royalton is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Royalton
    • Ivyton
      (18 miles [29 km] to the northwest)
      • Ivyton is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ivyton
    • Sublett
      (18 miles [29 km] to the northwest)
      • Sublett is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sublett
    • Lakeville
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the northwest)
      • Lakeville is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lakeville
    • Hendricks
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the northwest)
      • Hendricks is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hendricks
    • Painters Lick
      (23 miles [37 km] to the north)
      • Painters Lick is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Painters Lick
    • Salyersville
      (23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
    • Falcon
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the northwest)
      • Falcon is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Falcon
    • Ova
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
      • Ova is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ova
  • Martin County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Debord
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the northeast)
    • Tomahawk
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northeast)
      • Tomahawk is located in Martin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tomahawk
  • Perry County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Dwarf
      (18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
      • Dwarf is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dwarf
    • Ary
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the west)
    • Hardburly
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the southwest)
      • Hardburly is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hardburly
    • Tribbey
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the southwest)
      • Tribbey is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tribbey
    • Bulan
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
      • Bulan is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bulan
    • Vicco
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
      • Vicco is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Vicco
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 295 people
    • Stacy
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the west)
      • Stacy is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Stacy
    • Acup
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Acup is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Acup
    • Happy
      (23 miles [37 km] to the southwest)
      • Happy is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Happy
    • Scuddy
      (23 miles [37 km] to the southwest)
    • Dice
      (23 miles [37 km] to the west)
      • Dice is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dice
    • Jeff
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the southwest)
    • Bonnyman
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the southwest)
      • Bonnyman is located in Perry County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bonnyman
  • Pike County
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Owsley
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the east)
      • Owsley is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Owsley
    • Blair Town
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the east)
      • Blair Town is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Blair Town
    • Coal Run Village
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the east)
      • Coal Run Village is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Coal Run Village
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,494 people
    • Mayo Village
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the east)
      • Mayo Village is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mayo Village
    • Pikeville
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the east)
    • Robinson Creek
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the east)
      • Robinson Creek is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Robinson Creek
    • Virgie
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the southeast)
      • Virgie is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Virgie
    • Fords Branch
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the east)
      • Fords Branch is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fords Branch
    • Yeager
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the east)
      • Yeager is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Yeager
    • Jonancy
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the southeast)
      • Jonancy is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jonancy
    • Myra
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the southeast)
      • Myra is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Myra
    • Shelbiana
      (18 miles [29 km] to the east)
      • Shelbiana is located in Pike County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Shelbiana
    • Dorton
      (18 miles [29 km] to the southeast)
  • Wolfe County
    • Belknap
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
      • Belknap is located in Wolfe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Belknap
  • Dickenson County (VA)
    • Clintwood
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southeast)
      • Clintwood is located in Dickenson County (VA)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Clintwood
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,264 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Clintwood <1>
  • Wise County (VA)
    • The following are listed by their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.
    • Almira
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the southeast)
      • Almira is located in Wise County (VA)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Almira
    • Haddonfield
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the southeast)
      • Haddonfield is located in Wise County (VA)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Haddonfield
    • Pound
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the southeast)
      • Pound is located in Wise County (VA)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pound
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 917 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Pound <1>

For an expanded list of the communities that are closest to Lackey, see our County-by-County Page for Lackey.

Cemeteries Near Lackey ...

Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Lackey.

This is a new section and is likely to have errors. If you find an error, such as a missing cemetery or we have the wrong name, please let us know. If you know of them, we would also appreciate learning about previous or alternate names.

Although we don't have the information ourselves, if you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Lackey - one of the links might be able to help.

If not found below, our Cemetery List for Lackey covers a larger area, with the cemeteries listed in alphabetical order.

The following cemeteries are listed based on their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.

  • Conley Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the southwest)
  • Chafins Cemetery
    (Less than 2 miles to the west)
  • Wicker - Triplett Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the southwest)
  • Allen Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the north)
  • Collins Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the south)
  • Bradley Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the south)
  • Stumbo Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the east)
  • Osborne Family Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
  • Osborne Family Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
  • Turner Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
  • Turner Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
  • Fitzpatrick Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
  • Continue List   (564 more) ...
    • Allen Cemetery
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the north)
    • Shepherd Cemetery
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Shepherd Cemetery
      • The Shepherd Cemetery has also been known as:
      • Sutton Cemetery
    • Hicks Cemetery
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hicks Cemetery
      • The Hicks Cemetery has also been known as:
      • William Hicks Cemetery

Nearby Communities in 1895 ...

We've built the following list with information that came from an Atlas published by Rand McNally in 1895. The Atlas had details such as the population of the community (which appears to have come from the 1890 Census) and whether there was a post office and/or railroad service available. We also indicate if the community no longer exists and is now historic.<3>

The Rand McNally Atlas shows that in 1895, Lackey had a post office and no railroad service.

These communities are listed based on their distance from Lackey, with the one closest to Lackey listed first.

  • Hueysville
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northwest)
  • Raven
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the south)
    • Raven is located in Knott County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Raven
  • Minnie
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
    • Minnie is located in Floyd County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Minnie
  • Langley
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
    • Langley is located in Floyd County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Langley
  • McDowell
    (5 miles [8 km] to the east)
  • Alphoretta
    (7 miles [11.3 km] to the northeast)
    • Alphoretta is located in Floyd County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Alphoretta
  • Goodloe
    (9 miles [14.5 km] to the north)
    • Goodloe is located in Floyd County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Goodloe
  • Vest
    (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
  • Beaver
    (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southeast)
    • Beaver is located in Floyd County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Beaver
  • Hindman
    (12 miles [19.3 km] to the southwest)
  • Hall
    (12 miles [19.3 km] to the south)
    • Hall is located in Knott County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Hall
  • Dwale
    (12 miles [19.3 km] to the northeast)
    • Dwale is located in Floyd County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dwale
  • Continue List   (15 more) ...
    • Dotson
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the north)
      • Dotson is located in Floyd County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dotson
    • Pine Top
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the south)
      • Pine Top is located in Knott County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pine Top
    • Gapville
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the northwest)
      • Gapville is located in Magoffin County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gapville

We've also created an expanded list of communities that existed in the 1890's and were located in the area around Lackey. See our List of 1890's Communities around Lackey.

Newspapers Published in Lackey ...

An ongoing effort between the Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) has resulted in the National Digital Newspaper Program (NDNP).

To share their results, the partnership has created the Chronicling America website. The goal of this partnership is to assemble a database about the current and historic newspapers of the United States. This includes a growing collection of scanned images from selected papers. All of it available to the public on their website.

Using information that we've taken from the Chronicling America website, we've identified 7 newspapers that have been published in the area around Lackey.

Although we're unaware of any newspapers that were published in the immediate area of Lackey, there are papers which were published within 15 miles [24.1 km]<4>. A list of those papers, sorted by paper name, can be found on the Extended Newspaper List for Lackey.

Websites to Help With Your Genealogy Research ...

When we do our genealogical research, we first turn to the websites from Cyndi's List, FamilySearch and Genealogy Trails. These professional and volunteer websites offer the information directly or else point to where you can find it. Their information is open to everyone.

To help you get started, the following links will take you to the pages that are relevant to Lackey:

Footnotes ...

<1>While we're fans and frequent users of TripAdvisor, you should know that we're also members of the TripAdvisor affiliate program.
<2>The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com.
<3>We use the term 'Historic' broadly and it generally means that the community no longer exists. However, it can also mean that the community might still exist, but was significantly larger or had a more 'official' existence in the past than it does now. Unfortunately our sources of data have proven to be unreliable. If you can provide us with more specific information about Lackey, please let us know so that we can improve our accuracy.
<4>Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'straight-line' (or point-to-point) distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line drawn from Point A (ie- Lackey) to Point B. In other words: 'As the crow flies'.