List of Neighboring Cemeteries ...
Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Florence (within 40 miles [64.4 km]<1>). The cemeteries are listed in alphabetical order.
The following cemeteries are located in Marion County.
- Alexanderfeld Mennonite Church Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the west)
- Alexanderwohl Friedhof Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the west)
- Allison Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the south)
- Baker Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Baker Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Baker Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Baptist Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Baptist Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Baptist Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Bazaar Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the east)
- Belle Vista Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Belle Vista Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Belle Vista Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Blumenfeld Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the west)
- Boenitz Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the northeast)
- Brainerd Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
- Brunk Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the northwest)
- Burdick United Methodist Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Burdick United Methodist Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Burdick United Methodist Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Canada Cemetery
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the northwest)
- Canton Twp. Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the west)
- Cassoday Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Cassoday Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Cassoday Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Catlin Church Cemetery
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the west)
- Cedar Point Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the east)
- Cedar Twp. Cemetery
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
- Chelsea Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Chelsea Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Chelsea Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Church of God of the First Born Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Church of God of the First Born Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Church of God of the First Born Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Claney Cemetery
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the northwest)
- Clements Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the northeast)
- College Hill Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the College Hill Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the College Hill Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Delavan Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Delavan Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Delavan Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Diamond Creek Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the northeast)
- Diamond Springs Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Diamond Springs Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Diamond Springs Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Doyle Valley Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the west)
- Drinkwater Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the east)
- Dunkard Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the west)
- Durham Park Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Durham Park Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Durham Park Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
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- Ebenezer Methodist Cemetery
(14 miles [22.5 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Ebenezer Methodist Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Ebenezer Methodist Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Elk Cemetery
(14 miles [22.5 km] to the northeast)
- Evangelical Lutheran Zions Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the northwest)
- Fairmount Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Fairmount Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Fairmount Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Foster Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Foster Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Foster Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Freedom Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Freedom Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Freedom Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- French Creek Cemetery
(18 miles [29 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the French Creek Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the French Creek Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Frick Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Frick Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Frick Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Friedenstal Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Friedenstal Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Friedenstal Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Gard Cemetery
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Gard Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Gard Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Gnadenau Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the west)
- Gnadenau Village Cemetery
(14 miles [22.5 km] to the west)
- Grace Hill Mennonite Church Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southwest)
- Grant Cemetery
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Grant Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Grant Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Green Valley Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Green Valley Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Green Valley Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Greenfield Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Greenfield Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Greenfield Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Greenwood Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Greenwood Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Greenwood Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Griffith Cemetery
(7 miles [11.3 km] to the southeast)
- Hackler Community Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Hackler Community Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Hackler Community Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Harder Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the southwest)
- Harter Cemetery
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the north)
- Hartke Cemetery
(18 miles [29 km] to the north)
- Haven of Rest Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Haven of Rest Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Haven of Rest Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- High Prairie Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the east)
- Hillcrest Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Hillcrest Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Hillcrest Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Holderman Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Holderman Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Holderman Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Homestead Cemetery
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the east)
- Johannestal Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Johannestal Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Johannestal Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jones Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Jones Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Jones Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Lehigh Mennonite Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Lehigh Mennonite Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Lehigh Mennonite Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Lehigh Mennonite Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Lehigh Mennonite Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Lehigh Mennonite Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Lewis Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Lewis Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Lewis Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Lincolnville Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Lincolnville Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Lincolnville Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Logan Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Logan Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Logan Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Lost Springs Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
- Matfield Green Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the east)
- McGill Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the south)
- Mennonite Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mennonite Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mennonite Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Meridian Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Meridian Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Meridian Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Miller Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the east)
- Mission Cemetery
(18 miles [29 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mission Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mission Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Mitchell Valley Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mitchell Valley Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mitchell Valley Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Mohn Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mohn Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mohn Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Montgomery Cemetery
(7 miles [11.3 km] to the northeast)
- Mt. Calvary Cemetery
(Less than 2 miles to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mt. Calvary Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mt. Calvary Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Oakes Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Oakes Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Oakes Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Old Grace Hill Mennonite Church Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
- Pankratz Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pankratz Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pankratz Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Pilsen Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pilsen Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pilsen Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Pleasant Center Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pleasant Center Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pleasant Center Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Pleasant View Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pleasant View Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pleasant View Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Potwin Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Potwin Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Potwin Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Prairie Grove Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the northeast)
- Prairie Lawn Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Prairie Lawn Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Prairie Lawn Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Restlawn Gardens of Memory Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the southwest)
- Ridgeway Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Ridgeway Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Ridgeway Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Rosebank Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Rosebank Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Rosebank Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Royer Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the southwest)
- St. Anthony Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the northeast)
- St. Johns Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Johns Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the St. Johns Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- St. John's Lutheran Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. John's Lutheran Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the St. John's Lutheran Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- St. Mary Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the northwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Mary Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the St. Mary Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- St. Mary's Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Mary's Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the St. Mary's Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- St. Pauls Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Pauls Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the St. Pauls Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- St. Phillips Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Phillips Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the St. Phillips Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Schoenthal Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Schoenthal Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Schoenthal Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Shafer Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Shafer Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Shafer Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Simmons Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the northeast)
- Spring Branch Catholic Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the west)
- Springfield Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the west)
- Stoehr Elmdale Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the northeast)
- Strassburg Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the northwest)
- Strong Twp. Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the northeast)
- Sunset Hill Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Sunset Hill Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Sunset Hill Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Sunset Lawns Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Sunset Lawns Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Sunset Lawns Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Swedish Mission Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Swedish Mission Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Swedish Mission Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Swiss Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Swiss Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Swiss Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Towanda Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Towanda Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Towanda Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Township Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the west)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Township Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Township Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Union Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Union Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Union Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Walnut Valley Memorial Park
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the south)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Walnut Valley Memorial Park
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Walnut Valley Memorial Park have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Walton Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Walton Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Walton Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Whitewater Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the southwest)
- Wilsey Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the northeast)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Wilsey Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Wilsey Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Zion Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the southwest)
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Zion Cemetery
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Zion Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<3> The coordinates still need to be verified.
In Closing ...
If you know of any cemeteries that we are missing in the area of Florence, can you supply us with the name of the cemetery, its GPS location, whether the cemetery is still in use or if it is historic (ie- defunct, abandoned, etc.). If it applies, we would also like to learn of any past or alternate names that the cemetery has been known by.
If you don't know the GPS location (ie- the latitude/longitude) of a cemetery, please use our Map Page for Florence to determine the cemetery's position (the instructions for finding the latitude/longitude can be found below the map).
If you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Florence.
Off-the-Road Links ...
The official website for Florence: www.florenceks.com/
The official website for State of Kansas: https://portal.kansas.gov/
Looking for information about genealogy? We always start with these websites when searching in and around the area of Florence and Marion County:
Links at Cyndi's List:
for State of Kansas
for Marion County
Links at Family Search:
for State of Kansas
for Marion County
Links at Genealogy Trails:
for State of Kansas
for Marion County
We have a longer, more detailed list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Florence.
Footnotes ...
<1> | Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'straight-line' (or point-to-point) distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line drawn from Point A (ie- Florence) to Point B.Our distance measurements begin at a specific point in Florence. The point we use is located at these GPS coordinates - Latitude: 38.2434, Longitude: -96.9282 |
<2> | The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com. |
<3> | The location has been supplied by the Geographic Names Information System - which is maintained by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). While these values should be definitive, we found that accuracy can vary and you should double-check the location if accuracy is required. |
<4> | An 'estimated' location is one where we have been given GPS coordinates, but are unable to verify the accuracy of those coordinates. That said, we have some confidence that we have placed the marker near the actual location. A typical reason for being unable to verify a location is that it might be on private property or maybe historic and gone without an obvious trace. |