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Our Genealogy Helper

Introduction ...

We have a couple of goals for our Gazetteer:

  • That it be a tool which helps us with planning our trips.
  • We're trying to shape our Gazetteer as a tool to help us understand the community in which our ancestors lived, the community that was part of their daily lives.
  • On our trips, we try to visit those places where our ancestors left their footprints.

By learning about East Carondelet (and the surrounding area) during the time that our ancestors lived, we hope to have a better understanding of both their community and its relationship to their lifes. We hope that this tool helps to give us an insight into their world.

As we add data and organize our Gazetteer to help with our family research, we will be adding to this our Genealogical Helper for East Carondelet. While we don't have information that is specific to any given person or family, we intend to expand our understanding about where and how people lived.

Name Variations for East Carondelet ...

When searching records, keep in mind that names and their spelling can change over time. Our sources include documents like maps, railroad schedules, Travel, Express and Shipping Guides. Many of these documents date from the 1800's and it's common to find spelling differences.

For example, a typical abbreviation for East Carondelet: E. Carondelet

If you have information about these names (such as the reason for the change, date of change, the origin of the name), please Contact Us.

Neighboring Counties ...

When searching for family records, we have frequently made the mistake of not checking the neighboring counties.

For example, we have great-grandparents who lived in the southwest corner of their home county. During their lives, most hospitals were in the next county to the west. Almost all of the nearby churches and cemeteries were in the county to the south.

So when searching for records, we had our best success by looking in neighboring counties instead of the county in which they lived:  their home county contained property and probate records; the county to the west contained birth and death records; the county to the south contained their burial records. If we hadn't included the neighboring counties, we would have missed many valuable sources of information.

If you're in a similar situation, we hope that the following information helps.

East Carondelet is located in Saint Clair County.

To see how the shape of Illinois' counties may have changed over time, we recommend the Atlas of Historical County Boundaries.

The following counties adjoin and form the boundaries of Saint Clair County: Clinton, Madison, Monroe, Randolph, Washington, Saint Louis City (MO) & Saint Louis (MO).

Below are the counties that are near East Carondelet. For each of these counties, we show a sample of those communities that are closest to East Carondelet:

  • Saint Clair County     (The home county of East Carondelet)
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Dupo
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the southeast)
      • Dupo is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Dupo
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 3,845 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Dupo <1>
    • Falling Spring
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the east)
      • Falling Spring is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Falling Spring
    • Cahokia
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northeast)
      • Cahokia is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cahokia
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 13,742 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Cahokia <1>
    • Imbs
      (5 miles [8 km] to the east)
      • Imbs is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Imbs
    • Sauget
      (5 miles [8 km] to the northeast)
      • Sauget is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Sauget
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 154 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Sauget <1>
    • Centreville
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the east)
      • Centreville is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Centreville
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 4,844 people
    • Alorton
      (7 miles [11.3 km] to the northeast)
      • Alorton is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Alorton
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,880 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Alorton <1>
    • East Saint Louis
      (8 miles [12.9 km] to the northeast)
    • National City
      (8 miles [12.9 km] to the northeast)
    • Brooklyn
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the northeast)
      • Brooklyn is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Brooklyn
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 687 people
    • Millstadt
      (9 miles [14.5 km] to the southeast)
    • Fairmont City
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the northeast)
      • Fairmont City is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Fairmont City
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,439 people
  • Calhoun County
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Deer Plain
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
      • Deer Plain is located in Calhoun County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Deer Plain
    • Golden Eagle
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
  • Clinton County
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • New Baden
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the east)
    • New Memphis
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the east)
    • Trenton
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the east)
  • Jersey County
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Elsah
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the north)
    • Chautauqua
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
      • Chautauqua is located in Jersey County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Chautauqua
  • Madison County
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Newport
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the north)
      • Newport is located in Madison County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Newport
    • Venice
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the northeast)
    • Madison
      (11 miles [17.7 km] to the northeast)
    • Granite City
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the northeast)
    • Nameoki
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the northeast)
      • Nameoki is located in Madison County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Nameoki
    • Collinsville
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the northeast)
    • Pontoon Beach
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the northeast)
    • Mitchell
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the northeast)
      • Mitchell is located in Madison County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mitchell
    • Brooks
      (18 miles [29 km] to the northeast)
      • Brooks is located in Madison County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Brooks
    • Maryville
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the northeast)
    • Glen Carbon
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the northeast)
    • Hartford
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the north)
  • Monroe County
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Columbia
      (5 miles [8 km] to the south)
    • Waterloo
      (14 miles [22.5 km] to the south)
    • Foster Pond ‑ Historic
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the south)
      • Foster Pond is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Foster Pond
    • Valmeyer
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the south)
    • Wartburg
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the south)
      • Wartburg is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wartburg
    • Madonnaville
      (18 miles [29 km] to the south)
      • Madonnaville is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Madonnaville
    • Burksville Station
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
      • Burksville Station is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Burksville Station
    • Burksville
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
      • Burksville is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Burksville
    • Monroe City
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the south)
      • Monroe City is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Monroe City
    • Hecker
      (20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
    • Maeystown
      (21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
    • Chalfin Bridge
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the south)
      • Chalfin Bridge is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Chalfin Bridge
  • Randolph County
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Red Bud
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the southeast)
    • Ruma
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the southeast)
      • Ruma is located in Randolph County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ruma
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 300 people
  • Franklin County (MO)
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Pacific
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
      • Pacific is located in Franklin County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Pacific
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 7,097 people
      • Former name for Pacific:
      • Franklin
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Pacific <1>
    • Port Royal ‑ Historic
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
      • Port Royal is located in Franklin County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Port Royal
    • Saint Albans
      (28 miles [45.1 km] to the west)
    • Catawissa
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the west)
  • Jefferson County (MO)
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Arnold
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
      • Arnold is located in Jefferson County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Arnold
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 21,145 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Arnold <1>
    • Flamm City
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
      • Flamm City is located in Jefferson County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Flamm City
    • Maxville
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the southwest)
      • Maxville is located in Jefferson County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Maxville
    • Imperial
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the southwest)
    • Kimmswick
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the southwest)
    • Murphy
      (13 miles [20.9 km] to the west)
      • Murphy is located in Jefferson County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Murphy
    • Barnhart
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the southwest)
    • Parkdale
      (15 miles [24.1 km] to the west)
      • Parkdale is located in Jefferson County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Parkdale
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 162 people
    • High Ridge
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the west)
    • Peaceful Village
      (16 miles [25.7 km] to the west)
      • Peaceful Village is located in Jefferson County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Peaceful Village
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 67 people
    • Otto
      (17 miles [27.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Otto is located in Jefferson County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Otto
    • Byrnes Mill
      (19 miles [30.6 km] to the west)
  • Saint Charles County (MO)
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • West Alton
      (22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
      • West Alton is located in Saint Charles County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for West Alton
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 529 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for West Alton <1>
    • Harvester
      (23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
    • Saint Charles
      (23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
    • Gardnerville
      (24 miles [38.6 km] to the northwest)
      • Gardnerville is located in Saint Charles County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gardnerville
    • Weldon Spring
      (25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
    • Cottleville
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the northwest)
      • Cottleville is located in Saint Charles County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cottleville
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 5,925 people
      • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Cottleville <1>
    • Saint Peters
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the northwest)
    • Weldon Spring Heights
      (26 miles [41.8 km] to the northwest)
      • Weldon Spring Heights is located in Saint Charles County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Weldon Spring Heights
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 90 people
    • Portage Des Sioux
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
    • All Saints Village
      (27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
      • All Saints Village is located in Saint Charles County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for All Saints Village
    • Defiance
      (29 miles [46.7 km] to the west)
    • Dardenne Prairie
      (30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
  • Saint Louis City (MO)
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Carondelet
      (Less than 2 miles to the northwest)
      • Carondelet is located in Saint Louis City (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Carondelet
    • Cheltenham
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the north)
      • Cheltenham is located in Saint Louis City (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cheltenham
    • Saint Louis
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the north)
    • Tower Grove
      (6 miles [9.7 km] to the north)
      • Tower Grove is located in Saint Louis City (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tower Grove
    • University City
      (10 miles [16.1 km] to the northwest)
      • University City is located in Saint Louis City (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for University City
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 34,049 people
    • Baden
      (12 miles [19.3 km] to the north)
      • Baden is located in Saint Louis City (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Baden
  • Saint Louis County (MO)
    • The following are listed by their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.
    • Ivory
      (Less than 2 miles to the west)
      • Ivory is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ivory
    • Bella Villa
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
      • Bella Villa is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Bella Villa
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 721 people
    • Lemay
      (2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
      • Lemay is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lemay
    • Saint George
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
      • Saint George is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Saint George
      • Estimated population in 2011: 1,336 people
    • Wilbur Park
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
      • Wilbur Park is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Wilbur Park
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 466 people
    • Mackenzie
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the northwest)
      • Mackenzie is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mackenzie
      • Estimated population in 2018: 131 people
    • Mehlville
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the southwest)
      • Mehlville is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mehlville
    • Affton
      (4 miles [6.4 km] to the west)
      • Affton is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Affton
    • Grantwood Village
      (5 miles [8 km] to the west)
      • Grantwood Village is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Grantwood Village
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 855 people
    • Green Park
      (5 miles [8 km] to the west)
      • Green Park is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Green Park
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,614 people
    • Lakeshire
      (5 miles [8 km] to the west)
      • Lakeshire is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Lakeshire
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 1,385 people
    • Marlborough
      (5 miles [8 km] to the west)
      • Marlborough is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Marlborough
      • Population from the 2020 Census: 2,142 people

For an expanded list of the communities that are closest to East Carondelet, see our County-by-County Page for East Carondelet.

Cemeteries Near East Carondelet ...

Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of East Carondelet.

This is a new section and is likely to have errors. If you find an error, such as a missing cemetery or we have the wrong name, please let us know. If you know of them, we would also appreciate learning about previous or alternate names.

Although we don't have the information ourselves, if you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for East Carondelet - one of the links might be able to help.

If not found below, our Cemetery List for East Carondelet covers a larger area, with the cemeteries listed in alphabetical order.

The following cemeteries are listed based on their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.

  • Park Lawn Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
  • Trinity Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
  • Odd Fellows Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the southwest)
  • Concordia Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northwest)
  • St. Matthew Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the northwest)
  • Mt. Olive Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
  • Oakdale Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
  • Mt. Hope Cemetery
    (2 miles [3.2 km] to the west)
  • Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the southwest)
  • Bohnemeier Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the southeast)
  • Holy Family Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northeast)
  • Old St. Marcus Cemetery
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northwest)
  • Continue List   (439 more) ...
    • St. Marcus Cemetery (Old)
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for St. Marcus Cemetery (Old)
      • To give a relative sense of its location, the St. Marcus Cemetery (Old) is a large cemetery that is located in Saint Louis (MO).
      • The St. Marcus Cemetery (Old) has also been known as:
      • St. Marcus Commemorative Park
      • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #30670 <2>
    • St.s Peter & Paul Cemetery
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for St.s Peter & Paul Cemetery
      • To give a relative sense of its location, the St.s Peter & Paul Cemetery is a very large cemetery that is located in Saint Louis (MO).
      • The St.s Peter & Paul Cemetery has also been known as:
      • Old St.s Peter and Paul Cemetery
      • St.s Peter and Paul Catholic Cemetery
      • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2261610 <2>
    • Gatewood Gardens Cemetery
      (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northwest)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Gatewood Gardens Cemetery
      • To give a relative sense of its location, the Gatewood Gardens Cemetery is a very large cemetery that is located in Saint Louis (MO).
      • The Gatewood Gardens Cemetery has also been known as:
      • New Picker Cemetery
      • St. Louis Memorial Gardens
      • Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #958964 <2>

Nearby Communities in 1895 ...

We've built the following list with information that came from an Atlas published by Rand McNally in 1895. The Atlas had details such as the population of the community (which appears to have come from the 1890 Census) and whether there was a post office and/or railroad service available. We also indicate if the community no longer exists and is now historic.<3>

The Rand McNally Atlas shows that East Carondelet had a population of 404 people in 1895 with a post office and railroad service. In 2020, East Carondelet had a population of 469 people.

These communities are listed based on their distance from East Carondelet, with the one closest to East Carondelet listed first.

  • Vulcan
    (Less than 2 miles to the south)
    • Vulcan is located in Saint Clair County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Vulcan
  • Ivory
    (Less than 2 miles to the west)
    • Ivory is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Ivory
  • Carondelet
    (Less than 2 miles to the northwest)
    • Carondelet is located in Saint Louis City (MO)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Carondelet
  • Jefferson Barracks
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the southwest)
    • Jefferson Barracks is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Jefferson Barracks
  • Falling Spring
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the east)
    • Falling Spring is located in Saint Clair County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Falling Spring
  • Cahokia
    (3 miles [4.8 km] to the northeast)
    • Cahokia is located in Saint Clair County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cahokia
    • Population from the 2020 Census: 13,742 people
    • Jump to TripAdvisor's Tourism page for Cahokia <1>
  • Mehlville
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the southwest)
    • Mehlville is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Mehlville
  • Tillman
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
    • Tillman is located in Saint Clair County
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Tillman
  • Affton
    (4 miles [6.4 km] to the west)
    • Affton is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Affton
  • Oakville
    (5 miles [8 km] to the southwest)
    • Oakville is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Oakville
  • Cliff Cave
    (5 miles [8 km] to the southwest)
    • Cliff Cave is located in Saint Louis County (MO)
    • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Cliff Cave
  • Columbia
    (5 miles [8 km] to the south)
  • Continue List   (17 more) ...
    • Millstadt Junction
      (5 miles [8 km] to the south)
      • Millstadt Junction is located in Monroe County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Millstadt Junction
    • Clifton Heights
      (5 miles [8 km] to the northwest)
      • Clifton Heights is located in Saint Louis City (MO)
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Clifton Heights
    • Imbs
      (5 miles [8 km] to the east)
      • Imbs is located in Saint Clair County
      • Jump to our Gazetteer entry for Imbs

We've also created an expanded list of communities that existed in the 1890's and were located in the area around East Carondelet. See our List of 1890's Communities around East Carondelet.

Newspapers Published in East Carondelet ...

An ongoing effort between the Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) has resulted in the National Digital Newspaper Program (NDNP).

To share their results, the partnership has created the Chronicling America website. The goal of this partnership is to assemble a database about the current and historic newspapers of the United States. This includes a growing collection of scanned images from selected papers. All of it available to the public on their website.

Using information that we've taken from the Chronicling America website, we've identified 61 newspapers that have been published in the area around East Carondelet.

Although we're unaware of any newspapers that were published in the immediate area of East Carondelet, there are papers which were published within 10 miles [16.1 km]<4>. A list of those papers, sorted by paper name, can be found on the Extended Newspaper List for East Carondelet.

Websites to Help With Your Genealogy Research ...

When we do our genealogical research, we first visit the websites from Cyndi's List, FamilySearch and Genealogy Trails. These websites either offer the information directly or else point to where you can find it. Their information is open to everyone.

To help you get started, the following links will take you to the pages that are relevant to East Carondelet:

Footnotes ...

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<2>The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com.
<3>We use the term 'Historic' broadly and it generally means that the community no longer exists. However, it can also mean that the community might still exist, but was significantly larger or had a more 'official' existence in the past than it does now. Unfortunately our sources of data have proven to be unreliable. If you can provide us with more specific information about East Carondelet, please let us know so that we can improve our accuracy.
<4>Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'point-to-point' distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line drawn from Point A (ie- East Carondelet) to Point B. In other words: 'As the crow flies'.