List of Neighboring Cemeteries ...
Below are cemeteries that are in the vicinity of Riverside (within 40 miles [64.4 km]<1>). The cemeteries are listed in alphabetical order.
The following cemeteries are located in Duval County.
- Anderson Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Anderson Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Anderson Cemetery
- Arlington Community Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the east)
- Arlington Park Cemetery
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the east)
- Bakersville Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Bakersville Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Bakersville Cemetery
- Beulah Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Beulah Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Beulah Cemetery
- Boones Creek Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the northwest)
- Bosquebello Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Bosquebello Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Bosquebello Cemetery
- Bowles Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Bowles Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Bowles Cemetery
- Braddock Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Braddock Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Braddock Cemetery
- Brickyard Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Brickyard Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Brickyard Cemetery
- Camp Captain Mooney Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the west)
- Carlton Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Carlton Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Carlton Cemetery
- Chapel Hill Memory Garden
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Chapel Hill Memory Garden have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Chapel Hill Memory Garden
- Chapel Hills Memory Gardens
(5 miles [8 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Chapel Hills Memory Gardens have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Chapel Hills Memory Gardens
- Church of Our Savior Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
- City Cemetery
(2 miles [3.2 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the City Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the City Cemetery
- Conner - Green Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Conner - Green Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Conner - Green Cemetery
- Cosmo Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Cosmo Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Cosmo Cemetery
- Daniels Cemetery
(6 miles [9.7 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Daniels Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Daniels Cemetery
- Deep Creek Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Deep Creek Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Deep Creek Cemetery
- Deese Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Deese Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Deese Cemetery
- Dunn Creek Cemetery
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Dunn Creek Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Dunn Creek Cemetery
- Duval County Paupers Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Duval County Paupers Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Duval County Paupers Cemetery
- Edgewood Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Edgewood Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Edgewood Cemetery
- Emmaus Church Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the northwest)
- Evergreen Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
- Federal Hill Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Federal Hill Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Federal Hill Cemetery
- Ferreira Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Ferreira Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Ferreira Cemetery
- Fowler Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Fowler Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Fowler Cemetery
- Gilmore Cemetery
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Gilmore Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Gilmore Cemetery
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- Green Pine Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the north)
- Greenlawn Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the east)
- Greenwood Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Greenwood Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Greenwood Cemetery
- Hickory Grove Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Hickory Grove Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Hickory Grove Cemetery
- Higginbotham Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Higginbotham Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Higginbotham Cemetery
- Hillside Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the north)
- Holly Hill Memorial Park
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Holly Hill Memorial Park have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Holly Hill Memorial Park
- Jacksonville Memory Gardens
(9 miles [14.5 km] to the south)
- Jacksonville Memory Gardens
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Jacksonville Memory Gardens have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Jacksonville Memory Gardens
- Jacksonville National Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the north)
- Johns Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Johns Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Johns Cemetery
- Jones Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the northwest)
- Jones Family Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the northwest)
- Julington Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the southeast)
- The Julington Cemetery has also been known as:
- Julington Baptist Church Cemetery
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Julington Cemetery
- Keen Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Keen Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Keen Cemetery
- Lawtey Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the southwest)
- Little Ruth Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Little Ruth Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Little Ruth Cemetery
- Lofton's Cemetery
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the south)
- Long Branch Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Long Branch Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Long Branch Cemetery
- Macedonia Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
- Magnolia Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
- Mandarin Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
- Manning Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Manning Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Manning Cemetery
- Mantown Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the west)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mantown Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mantown Cemetery
- Mayport Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mayport Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mayport Cemetery
- Memorial Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Memorial Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Memorial Cemetery
- Middleburg Methodist Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Middleburg Methodist Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Middleburg Methodist Cemetery
- Moosehaven Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the south)
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Moosehaven Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<4>
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Moosehaven Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2264259 <3>
- Motes Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the west)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Motes Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Motes Cemetery
- Mt. Olive Cemetery
(21 miles [33.8 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mt. Olive Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mt. Olive Cemetery
- Mt. Olive Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Mt. Olive Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Mt. Olive Cemetery
- Oak Grove Cemetery
(29 miles [46.7 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Oak Grove Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Oak Grove Cemetery
- Oak Grove Cemetery
(26 miles [41.8 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Oak Grove Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Oak Grove Cemetery
- Oaklawn Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the southeast)
- Oaklawn Cemetery
(3 miles [4.8 km] to the southeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Oaklawn Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Oaklawn Cemetery
- Oakwood Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Oakwood Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Oakwood Cemetery
- Ogilvie Cemetery
(15 miles [24.1 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Ogilvie Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Ogilvie Cemetery
- Old Conway Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Old Conway Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Old Conway Cemetery
- Owens Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Owens Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Owens Cemetery
- Padget Cemetery
(19 miles [30.6 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Padget Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Padget Cemetery
- Parrish Cemetery
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the west)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Parrish Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Parrish Cemetery
- Parsons Cemetery
(7 miles [11.3 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Parsons Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Parsons Cemetery
- Peetsville Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the southwest)
- Penney Farms Cemetery
(23 miles [37 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Penney Farms Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Penney Farms Cemetery
- Pickett Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pickett Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pickett Cemetery
- Pinehurst Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pinehurst Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pinehurst Cemetery
- Pinkston Cemetery
(8 miles [12.9 km] to the west)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pinkston Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pinkston Cemetery
- Ponte Vedra Valley Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
- Potters Field
(5 miles [8 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Potters Field have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Potters Field
- Pringle Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Pringle Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Pringle Cemetery
- Rain Cemetery
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Rain Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Rain Cemetery
- Restlawn Memorial Park
(5 miles [8 km] to the north)
- Rideout Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Rideout Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Rideout Cemetery
- Riverside Memorial Park
(5 miles [8 km] to the west)
- St. George Cemetery
(25 miles [40.2 km] to the northwest)
- St. Joseph Cemetery
(11 miles [17.7 km] to the southeast)
- St. Theresa Cemetery
(30 miles [48.3 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the St. Theresa Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the St. Theresa Cemetery
- Salem Cemetery
(28 miles [45.1 km] to the south)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Salem Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Salem Cemetery
- Sammis Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Sammis Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Sammis Cemetery
- Sampson Cemetery
(20 miles [32.2 km] to the southeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Sampson Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Sampson Cemetery
- Sellers Cemetery
(10 miles [16.1 km] to the west)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Sellers Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Sellers Cemetery
- Sloans Landing Cemetery
(12 miles [19.3 km] to the south)
- Note: We haven't been able to verify our GPS coordinates for the Sloans Landing Cemetery. Although the coordinates have been estimated, they should be in the vicinity.<4>
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Sloans Landing Cemetery
- Jump to Find-A-Grave: FG ID #2216571 <3>
- Springbank Cemetery
(24 miles [38.6 km] to the south)
- Talbot Island Cemetery
(17 miles [27.4 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Talbot Island Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Talbot Island Cemetery
- The Evergreen Cemetery
(4 miles [6.4 km] to the northeast)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the The Evergreen Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the The Evergreen Cemetery
- Tillotson Cemetery
(13 miles [20.9 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Tillotson Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Tillotson Cemetery
- Warren Smith Cemetery
(16 miles [25.7 km] to the east)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Warren Smith Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Warren Smith Cemetery
- Westview Cemetery
(5 miles [8 km] to the northwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Westview Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Westview Cemetery
- Whitker Cemetery
(14 miles [22.5 km] to the southwest)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Whitker Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Whitker Cemetery
- Wildes Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Wildes Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Wildes Cemetery
- Woodlawn Cemetery
(27 miles [43.5 km] to the west)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Woodlawn Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Woodlawn Cemetery
- Yulee Cemetery
(22 miles [35.4 km] to the north)
- Note: The GPS coordinates that we are using for the Yulee Cemetery have been provided by the GNIS.<2> The coordinates still need to be verified.
- Jump to our Gazetteer entry for the Yulee Cemetery
In Closing ...
If you know of any cemeteries that we are missing in the area of Riverside, can you supply us with the name of the cemetery, its GPS location, whether the cemetery is still in use or if it is historic (ie- defunct, abandoned, etc.). If it applies, we would also like to learn of any past or alternate names that the cemetery has been known by.
If you don't know the GPS location (ie- the latitude/longitude) of a cemetery, please use our Map Page for Riverside to determine the cemetery's position (the instructions for finding the latitude/longitude can be found below the map).
If you need information about a burial or interment, photos, transcripts, how to contact the cemetery or local authorities, please visit our list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Riverside.
Off-the-Road Links ...
Unfortunately, we don't know of an official website for Riverside. If you can help, please contact us through our Feedback Page.
The official website for State of Florida: https://www.myflorida.com/
Working on your genealogy? These are excellent websites to start with when searching in and around the area of Riverside and Duval County:
Links at Cyndi's List:
for State of Florida
for Duval County
Links at Family Search:
for State of Florida
for Duval County
Links at Genealogy Trails:
for State of Florida
for Duval County
We have a longer, more detailed list of websites on our Genealogy Helper Page for Riverside.
Footnotes ...
<1> | Our distances are not driving distances, but are calculated as a 'point-to-point' distance. A straight line distance ignores things like rivers, canyons, lakes, et cetera - it's truly a line from Point A (ie- Riverside) to Point B.Our distance measurements begin at a specific point in Riverside. The point we use is located at these GPS coordinates - Latitude: 30.3122, Longitude: -81.6843 In this case, the coordinates for Riverside have been provided by the Geographic Names Information System (GNIS). |
<2> | The location has been supplied by the Geographic Names Information System - which is maintained by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). While these values should be definitive, we found that accuracy can vary and you should double-check the location if accuracy is required. |
<3> | The Find-a-Grave website is an excellent research tool with information about a cemetery's location and interments. They also offer a forum for their members which can provide additional help. More information about Find-a-Grave can be found on their website: findagrave.com. |
<4> | An 'estimated' location is one where we have been given GPS coordinates, but are unable to verify the accuracy of those coordinates. That said, we have some confidence that we have placed the marker near the actual location. A typical reason for being unable to verify a location is that it might be on private property or maybe historic and gone without an obvious trace. |